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Started by iago, December 30, 2003, 03:30 PM

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j0k3r

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Quote from: Naem on January 03, 2004, 01:04 AM
Quote from: j0k3r on January 02, 2004, 04:08 PM
Quote from: Naem on January 02, 2004, 10:51 AM
leech does work.
*leach.

Nobody said it didn't work, except on act3 mercs.
*leech.

I never said someone said it didn't work, iago asked if it did.


http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=leech
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leech1    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (lch)
n.
1. Any of various chiefly aquatic bloodsucking or carnivorous annelid worms of the class Hirudinea, of which one species (Hirudo medicinalis) was formerly used by physicians to bleed patients and is now sometimes used as a temporary aid to circulation during surgical reattachment of a body part.  
2. One that preys on or clings to another; a parasite.
3. Archaic. A physician.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=leach
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leach    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (lch)
v. leached, leach·ing, leach·es
n.
1. The act or process of leaching.
2. A porous, perforated, or sievelike vessel that holds material to be leached.
3. The substance through which a liquid is leached.

Now correct me if I'm wrong, but they are LEACHING blood, not attaching a leech to their weapons to suck the enemy to death.
QuoteAnyone attempting to generate random numbers by deterministic means is, of course, living in a state of sin
John Vo

Adron

Quote from: j0k3r on January 03, 2004, 07:19 AM

Now correct me if I'm wrong, but they are LEACHING blood, not attaching a leech to their weapons to suck the enemy to death.

As far as I know, their weapons have the "of the leech" property, which means that they prey on the life of the monsters, supplying HP to the wielder of the weapon.

j0k3r

It might, it might not I haven't been abe to find anything argueing (sp?) over it in 20minutes... However it makes more sense to me that you would leach their blood (like a vampire), and not use a leech or have 'of the leech' property.

Maybe it's just me, I guess it can go both ways but in game everyone refers to it as 'leach' (although technically, it says 'x life/mana stolen per hit'.
QuoteAnyone attempting to generate random numbers by deterministic means is, of course, living in a state of sin
John Vo

iago

In d2, the items are of the bat or of the locust, which doesn't help much.  I think in d1, it was of the leech. Don't forget, leaches leech.
This'll make an interesting test for broken AV:
QuoteX5O!P%@AP[4\PZX54(P^)7CC)7}$EICAR-STANDARD-ANTIVIRUS-TEST-FILE!$H+H*



iago

yeah, that's the animal.  But what it DOES is it leaches life.  leach is the verb the the noun leech does.  So yeah.  Who cares?
This'll make an interesting test for broken AV:
QuoteX5O!P%@AP[4\PZX54(P^)7CC)7}$EICAR-STANDARD-ANTIVIRUS-TEST-FILE!$H+H*


Adron

Leach could refer to either mana or hp... If you're using it because it generally means taking out something.

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Main Entry: 2leach
Function: verb
Etymology: leach vessel through which water is passed to extract lye
Date: 1796
transitive senses
1 : to dissolve out by the action of a percolating liquid <leach out alkali from ashes>
2 : to subject to the action of percolating liquid (as water) in order to separate the soluble components
3 a : to remove (nutritive or harmful elements) from soil by percolation b : to draw out or remove as if by percolation <all meaning has been leached from my life>
intransitive senses : to pass out or through by percolation
- leach·abil·i·ty  /"lE-ch&-'bi-l&-tE/ noun
- leach·able  /'lE-ch&-b&l/ adjective
- leach·er noun

If you want to use it in any other sense than that, it's also listed as a variant of the word leech, which would then be the preferred choice, since it's the one the game uses.

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Main Entry: 2leech
Function: verb
Date: 1828
transitive senses
1 : to bleed by the use of leeches
2 : to drain the substance of : EXHAUST
intransitive senses : to attach oneself to a person as a leech

Adron

Quote from: iago on January 03, 2004, 12:41 PM
yeah, that's the animal.  But what it DOES is it leaches life.  leach is the verb the the noun leech does.  So yeah.  Who cares?

I don't think you're after the verb leach as in remove by percolation... Maybe you're after the verb leech?

j0k3r

People in D2 refer to it as 'leach', I have never ever seen anyone type 'life/mana leech' in game.
QuoteAnyone attempting to generate random numbers by deterministic means is, of course, living in a state of sin
John Vo

Adron

Quote from: j0k3r on January 03, 2004, 03:42 PM
People in D2 refer to it as 'leach', I have never ever seen anyone type 'life/mana leech' in game.

That's probably a sign of ignorance?


Google says: diablo leech = 18800 hits, diablo leach = 2440 hits, which would indicate that leech is more commonly used than leach? I mostly refer to it as life/mana steal though..

j0k3r

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That's probably a sign of ignorance?


Google says: diablo leech = 18800 hits, diablo leach = 2440 hits, which would indicate that leech is more commonly used than leach? I mostly refer to it as life/mana steal though..
Yes, I'm sure all 100 000+ people are ignorant and uninformed.

Anyways, both refer to diablo 2, obviously some people say it one way, others say it the other, and depending on the context both can be right. I say 'leach' because that is how I see it spelled everytime I see someone talking about it in game, and it to 'leach a liquid'(blood) is logical to me.
QuoteAnyone attempting to generate random numbers by deterministic means is, of course, living in a state of sin
John Vo

Adron

Quote from: j0k3r on January 03, 2004, 04:44 PM
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That's probably a sign of ignorance?


Google says: diablo leech = 18800 hits, diablo leach = 2440 hits, which would indicate that leech is more commonly used than leach? I mostly refer to it as life/mana steal though..

Yes, I'm sure all 100 000+ people are ignorant and uninformed.


What I'm saying is that probably about 9% of the people say leach, and the rest say leech. So yes, 9000+ people are probably ignorant and uninformed.

j0k3r

I don't understand how you figure 9%, when I have never (and I mean never, I would've gotten into this very argument with them) seen anyone say 'life/mana leech'.
QuoteAnyone attempting to generate random numbers by deterministic means is, of course, living in a state of sin
John Vo

Adron

I figure 9 % by comparing the number of google hits for the combination of diablo + leech vs diablo + leach?

j0k3r

Quote from: Adron on January 03, 2004, 06:30 PM
I figure 9 % by comparing the number of google hits for the combination of diablo + leech vs diablo + leach?
That would imply that the kiddies that play diablo have some brains/interests, and that they would care to discuss the game they're playing and/or make a website using HTML (or even geocities...  :-\).
QuoteAnyone attempting to generate random numbers by deterministic means is, of course, living in a state of sin
John Vo

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