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Yeah, i'm a complete newb when it comes to making bots - i'd like to know how I open a bot source code and fool around with it and save the changes so I could see what I did, i'd like to do this so I can learn, not steal people's work.
Also, i'd like to know how to go about taking a basic bot script and adding to it to personalize it and save the changes and actually use it? Thanks in advanced!

Quote from: idoL on May 10, 2004, 07:13 PM
Yeah, i'm a complete newb when it comes to making bots - i'd like to know how I open a bot source code and fool around with it. . .

mmm, I usually use the double-clicking/typing method.

Quote. . .and save the changes so I could see what I did. . .

I like to use the File->Save method, but when I'm feeling a little sexy, I utilize the CTRL+S feature.

Quote. . .i'd  like to do this so I can learn, not steal people's work.

I suggest you take a different path to learning, such as reading books, learning the language, trial and error ect...

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Also, i'd like to know how to go about taking a basic bot script and adding to it to personalize it and save the changes and actually use it? Thanks in advanced!

See answers 1-2.


From reading all of your post, I'm between these two conclusions:

1.) You don't actually have bot source code/compiler and what you actually want to do is hex edit a previously created bot.
   a.) www.hexworkshop.com

2.) You have absolutely zero programming experience and should probably attempt learning the language before taking on a bot project -- whether it be open source or not.
   a.) www.planetsourcecode.com
   b.) www.google.com
   c.) Your local book store

And man, don't take this reply the wrong way. I'm not trying to put you down or make you feel stupid, but come on man, you need to crawl before you can walk. Don't take on a project you aren't ready to handle. Go get a VB or C++ book. The first VB book I learned from (which I think is excellent, btw) was:

Visual Basic 6, How To Program
Deitel & Deitel
T.R. Nieto
www.deitel.com
www.microsoft.com/vbasic
www.developer.com

Idol, I used to be like you pal. I'd come here and ask really dumb questions. Let me suggest to you that you go back and read some books and learn VB or w/e you want to learn. When you have fullfilled those wishes then that's when you can come back here. Keep in mind knowledge is power

Peace,
Steve

Thanks guys that did help.  

QuoteYou don't actually have bot source code/compiler and what you actually want to do is hex edit a previously created bot.

Yeah kinda, but also edit it in VB or C++.

Quote2.) You have absolutely zero programming experience and should probably attempt learning the language before taking on a bot project -- whether it be open source or not

Your correct again, I am trying to learn, for now I have no programming experiance but some knowledge.

Quote from: effect on May 10, 2004, 09:06 PM
So what exactly would you like help with , do you want someone to reference you to some education material (IE Source?).

www.zeroforce.tk < -- has stuff there

What I'd really like is some one to point me in a good direction on how to edit a bot source code to customize it / learn, and in general learn how to make a bot easily, I know where to learn programming and stuff, but bot making is kinda personalized.

He wants sourcecode and a compiler.  Now let's all say the vL slogan, "You'll get over it."

ehh not sure if I can post this here, but
For Visual Basic

Compiler:
http://www.pianka.net/PN4/

Book:
http://frozen.dynip.com/eBooks/

Source Codes:
http://www.pianka.net/PN4/

Quote from: idoL on May 10, 2004, 10:14 PM
What I'd really like is some one to point me in a good direction on how to edit a bot source code to customize it / learn, and in general learn how to make a bot easily, I know where to learn programming and stuff, but bot making is kinda personalized.

A bot is really a complicated thing to create.  I like the statement Eli referred to, "You need to crawl before you can walk."  Making a bot isn't like learning HTML -- you can't open up the HTML, add the <b> </b> tags, refresh the browser, and see that you have made something bold.  You need to learn what a compiler is, basic programming in general, among other things.

You can't just open a VB bot's source code and change something around if you have absoltely no idea how anything you're looking at works.  And you'll find a lot more help here if you are attempting to learn a programming language than leeching off of the work of others in modifying something someone already programmed themselves.

Quote from: iago on May 10, 2004, 10:16 PM
He wants sourcecode and a compiler.  Now let's all say the vL slogan, "You'll get over it."

This could be a fun topic.

Edit: I knew I got it wrong =[

Quote from: Soul Taker on May 11, 2004, 04:29 AM

Quote from: iago on May 10, 2004, 10:16 PM
He wants sourcecode and a compiler.  Now let's all say the vL slogan, "You'll get over it."

This could be a fun topic.

Edit: I knew I got it wrong =[

I can get him dome of the minor greetbot source codes.
Their readily accessible on the blizzard website i think.
Its where i downloaded them

Quote from: Eli_1 on May 10, 2004, 07:26 PMyou need to crawl before you can walk.

No you don't, I saw this girl on TV who never learned to crawl she just hops around on her butt.

Yes. As a start to programming I am learning VB, any advice on what is a good way to start this "complicated" path to build a bot after I learn enough about coding/programming to do so?
(I think I'll be good enough  to build a bot after summer, I'm really trying to learn this stuff!)

Also..
I like how everyone here seems to be in good manner and not automatically flame some one like me, thanks.  

Quote from: idoL on May 11, 2004, 08:05 AM
Yes. As a start to programming I am learning VB, any advice on what is a good way to start this "complicated" path to build a bot after I learn enough about coding/programming to do so?
(I think I'll be good enough  to build a bot after summer, I'm really trying to learn this stuff!)

Also..
I like how everyone here seems to be in good manner and not automatically flame some one like me, thanks.  

Well here is how i learned:
:: Try and get some sourcecodes for different bots
:: Look at them and see if you can make some sense of them
:: If you cannot try buying a book on thme or rereading the book you have on the programming subject
:: Then its just experiment experiment experiment.

NOTE: Try and be as creative as possible and DON'T PLAGERIZE

I recommend starting out by editing in C
And start from the ground up with editing the simple greetbots that Blizzard will provide for you on their site

Looking at sources lead to copying and code leeching. Try to keep it to a minimal and only refer is necessary. You will thank yourself you didn't look at sources once you become somewhat a veteran at Bot Development.

Quote from: ChR0NiC on May 11, 2004, 12:05 PM
Looking at sources lead to copying and code leeching. Try to keep it to a minimal and only refer is necessary. You will thank yourself you didn't look at sources once you become somwhat a veteran at Bot Development.

I think this is the first thing I agree with you on.
Amen.