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Well, looking for some good ASM people to help us out on PvPGN. Most ASM people (well the two of them) are not always around and we have alot of things to do which takes time are pretty rock hard.

Currently making loaders is the biggest problem. The loaders created are patching memory addresses. The guy currently making this (zap), current loader fixes the  IX86ver request and patches the password hash with the sc/bw hash. It uses a public / private key algorithm to check if the server ip is authentic which you are therefore unable to emulate. So therefore the loader changes the one bit hash and thus making the check disapear.
The goal is of course to see if someone is able to make a autoadaptive no cd loader...
Also working on TIPS right now (the system blizz uses to merge servers and split the network load on multiple servers. A kewl thing for the community to use.
PvPGN is free source and free for all to download. If you think you can help then check us out on irc.pvpgn.org in #pvpgn

pvpgn is a bunch of stupid people have have no life... if they recreate bnet what are you gunna use it for? all you do is abuse ur power on it (aka warnet) people host it and ban people... who cares about another server go out side and do something other than sit on a game all day
~ NaKeD

I don't think that your reply (gosumoo) is appropriate.  Someone here is looking for HELP, they don't need your attitude at all.

Also, Skull, I'm sure there are a lot of people here with well enough ASM knowledge to help you out, the only question is who, and will they.  As for my self,  I don't know ASM so I can't help you out.

BTW, you should have posted this in Assembly or Advanced programming forum since it has to do with ASM.

Also, you should post details on exactly what you need done. If you just throw out a post at a time when you need something done, chances aren't that slim that someone will actually just do it to see how it can be done.

Well we kinda have problems with loaders mostly and the no-cd cracks. The two loader guys whos making all of this are in a troubled time with their life and we are dependet on aCID (which noone really knows who is) to make the no-cd cracks.
Anyway, if possible (I think it is, but not really my field) is to make some kind of auto adaptive no-cd loader that will apply itself in the right memory space on each new patch.
We did discuss this sometimes internally, but it never really came to much as the ASM people were not around.

gosumoo - some people cant afford to buy blizzard games and they need another service to play on for free. Also modders benefit from this very much because you can theoretically speaking create your own D2/Wc3 mod and host a game server (CS style).
Its all free source and I know that at least 20-30k people use this. Which is why I was hoping that someone might cut the string to the endless fight against patches from Blizz....
Anything else I can provice with, just tell me and I will do my best to explain it.

No-cd crack?  Sounds illegal, wouldn't want to dirty my hands in that.

Quotesome people cant afford to buy blizzard games and they need another service to play on for free

Bull.

Aren't there generic safedisc or whatever cracks?

Quote from: Adron on August 04, 2003, 06:57 AM
Aren't there generic safedisc or whatever cracks?

Each Blizzard title has a unique disk-check function (with the exception of D1, Hellfire, and I think SC pre 1.04 copies) and the later a Blizzard title, the more advanced it is, so a universal no-cd crack would be theoretically impossible (unless it's all the no-cd cracks packed together in one program). This is just one of the reasons Blizzard titles are so hard to crack completely.

PVPGN is a hopelessly useless emulator. It breaks the BNCS protocol regularly and, in my experience, has been extremely slow. If you're seeking programmers, you should also find some people to fix it. (No, I'm not volunteering)

Quote from: Raven on August 04, 2003, 10:04 AM

Quote from: Adron on August 04, 2003, 06:57 AM
Aren't there generic safedisc or whatever cracks?

Each Blizzard title has a unique disk-check function (with the exception of D1, Hellfire, and I think SC pre 1.04 copies) and the later a Blizzard title, the more advanced it is, so a universal no-cd crack would be theoretically impossible (unless it's all the no-cd cracks packed together in one program). This is just one of the reasons Blizzard titles are so hard to crack completely.

Err.. No, that's'not true at all.
SC/BW (ALL versions), D1, Hellfire, and W2BNE also use the same cd check at the same spot in a shared library common to all Blizzard games.
Diablo II and Warcraft III both use generic SecuROM.

Quote from: Skywing on August 04, 2003, 12:31 PM

Quote from: Raven on August 04, 2003, 10:04 AM

Quote from: Adron on August 04, 2003, 06:57 AM
Aren't there generic safedisc or whatever cracks?

Each Blizzard title has a unique disk-check function (with the exception of D1, Hellfire, and I think SC pre 1.04 copies) and the later a Blizzard title, the more advanced it is, so a universal no-cd crack would be theoretically impossible (unless it's all the no-cd cracks packed together in one program). This is just one of the reasons Blizzard titles are so hard to crack completely.

Err.. No, that's'not true at all.
SC/BW (ALL versions), D1, Hellfire, and W2BNE also use the same cd check at the same spot in a shared library common to all Blizzard games.
Diablo II and Warcraft III both use generic SecuROM.

Ok Sky, go put together a universal no-cd crack that authenticates constantly, and log the different "unforseen problem" that you encounter.

Quote from: Raven on August 04, 2003, 12:54 PM

Quote from: Skywing on August 04, 2003, 12:31 PM

Quote from: Raven on August 04, 2003, 10:04 AM

Quote from: Adron on August 04, 2003, 06:57 AM
Aren't there generic safedisc or whatever cracks?

Each Blizzard title has a unique disk-check function (with the exception of D1, Hellfire, and I think SC pre 1.04 copies) and the later a Blizzard title, the more advanced it is, so a universal no-cd crack would be theoretically impossible (unless it's all the no-cd cracks packed together in one program). This is just one of the reasons Blizzard titles are so hard to crack completely.

Err.. No, that's'not true at all.
SC/BW (ALL versions), D1, Hellfire, and W2BNE also use the same cd check at the same spot in a shared library common to all Blizzard games.
Diablo II and Warcraft III both use generic SecuROM.

Ok Sky, go put together a universal no-cd crack that authenticates constantly, and log the different "unforseen problem" that you encounter.

That has already been done for the SC/BW/D1/W2 check many times before.
I never tried to hack the SecuROM; however, a generic crack ought to work for that.

Yea true, its SecuRom on the Wc3. But I dont see how you can actually apply this to face all the future patches. Well guess you might know this...anyway, anyone welcome to help as I said.

[off-topic] Hey, Skull, long time no see.  Been three or so years, I think.[/off-topic]

Quote from: Skull on August 04, 2003, 05:51 PM
Yea true, its SecuRom on the Wc3. But I dont see how you can actually apply this to face all the future patches. Well guess you might know this...anyway, anyone welcome to help as I said.

There is a limited amount of things they can change with SecuROM as the physical game CDs themselves are already "set in stone" so to speak.
Since most of the checking will have to be done with DeviceIoControl, perhaps you could 'train' it to work with a specific SecuROM version; for instance, record IOCTLs made with a "legitimate" CD and "fix up" these for a burned CD.