Future of Microsoft

[Tuberload]

Linux can reads Microsoft's file systems (even though I've heard otherwise) because Linux needed to fight against Microsoft, so they just conformed to being able to read their file systems.  Microsoft really never had a need to do that...Linux is basically fighting the uphill battle getting the edge on Microsoft as much as they can while Microsoft defends is the way I see it.

I think Linux's decision to support Windows file systems was a smart choice as far as portability goes. I also think the only reason Microsoft doesn't support Linux file systems is because they don't want to support the competition.

[Thing]

Linux can reads Microsoft's file systems (even though I've heard otherwise) because Linux needed to fight against Microsoft, so they just conformed to being able to read their file systems.  Microsoft really never had a need to do that...Linux is basically fighting the uphill battle getting the edge on Microsoft as much as they can while Microsoft defends is the way I see it.

Of course Microsoft is defending it's market share.  They would be stupid not to.  Their tactics, however, are bringing more critisism than praise.  Their recent patent of the FAT filesystem is being reviewed, their upcoming "seminars" in Europe are already being laughed at.  The prices for their products go up while the problems associated with those product follows.  They need to do some serious damage control and do it fast.

[iago]

the average computer user will use whatever he can do everything he wants to do on. Linux isn't close to this and Windows is already there

You can do anything and more on Linux.  The difference is, Windows makes it easier.  On Linux, it's harder to get it going, but generally more powerful, free, and open source.

But most computer users don't need power.  They need ability.

Yes, and Linux has considerably more ability.

As a small example, Linux can read Windows' filesystems (Fat32, NTFS), but Windows can't read Linux's (ext2/ext3/ReiserFS).  

Plus, anything I can do on Windows, I can do better and cheaper on Linux.  It takes a little getting used to, but once you're good with Linux it's hard to go back.

Linux can reads Microsoft's file systems (even though I've heard otherwise) because Linux needed to fight against Microsoft, so they just conformed to being able to read their file systems.  Microsoft really never had a need to do that...Linux is basically fighting the uphill battle getting the edge on Microsoft as much as they can while Microsoft defends is the way I see it.

I would imagine that Linux could read it because somebody decided that it would be sueful and added it to the kernel in his free time.  That's why there is unlimited software for Linux -- for everything you want to do, somebody else has already needed to do it, and they post it for anybody to use.

[muert0]

When I installed linux I just installed it on my first HD and left my second HD as NTFS. So, I didn't have to hunt down all mymusic and crap over again. I later changed back over to XP on this computer and had to lose everything I had on my *nix HD. O well I forget what the point of this is or was.

[Hostile]

You obviously haven't used vi correctly.  The only thing I miss is the autocomplete.  

Thats not the only thing missing... Not to mention despite a major lapse for creative development in the development field its still not caught up with the simple beneficial features nor created any unique ones worth mentioning. This isn't a problem with vi is a problem with open source, and I seriously laugh at all the ignorant dumbfucks in college right now doing anything worth mentioning for open source unless its intentions are selfish (like for a resume and what not). Why? Because by the time you're out of college you may very well not even have a fucking job to program in... lol. If you're really smart (which includes being smart enough to realize all the ways you can be smart), creative and disciplined, chances are you will always have a job in life... but for the greatly large portion of you who are not, you're screwed. There are so many programmers out there now, just know you have an ever growing huge range of competition.

You can do anything and more on Linux.  The difference is, Windows makes it easier.  On Linux, it's harder to get it going, but generally more powerful, free, and open source.

Harder to get going is an understatement... I have a perfectly capable and standard computer... More years of computer using experience if not directly applied to anything then almost everyone here... And perfectly functional versions of the OS and it often takes a great amount of time, because despite all the anti-windows jokes they make about Microsoft technology not working with anything else, this new Linux I'm trying isn't working with my Windows! Now obviously I'm not that stupid and know its mainly because Windows XP/whatever is to blame but how does everyone else? Not everyone else had VMWare or multiple computers to get this working. So now you can't even get a bootable installation (not to mention the installations are still quite inferior Windows/ect then Linux. All for the price of free I have to limit myself to barely being able to do anything too? Just so everything is free in the future? Well, come to think of it I don't even mind paying for the new stuff every now and then, though it would be nice if it were a bit cheaper. So now the person starts all over again with the process.


Open source will NEVER work. Organized projects need devoted, innovative, and intelligible people. Need I say that all the stuff done up until now has been done by almost none of those, obviously a few stand out but thats it. They've all been playing catch up and nothing more. If the people we're actually smart they'd realize that they were working for free when they could be doing this for a company for $30/hr... All these open source guys are eventually going to go broke, because so far these companies have been funding the developers even though they have no real profit comming in either. How long is it really before companies totally take this over anyways? Redhat already has... SuSE has for the most part, only providing the most simple, smallest version for free. Its just a matter of time before companies either own all the open source code that these stupid people wrote or that the only people who can afford to write open source code will be unexperienced students.

[iago]

I think you have it all backwards.  The people who program in open source are the ones who enjoy programming, and who love what they do.  I would program whether or not there was a good job market for it, because it's something that I greatly enjoy.  

And there are tons of incredible open source projects.  Wine, Gaim, OpenOffice, FileZilla, BitTorrent, VirtualDub, DC++, Mozilla, Linux, and Dev-c++ to name a few.  

I managed to install Linux and repartition my drive without any problems.  And to install software, I have had no problems lately.  It takes a little getting use to, but it's fairly easy.

But I do agree -- if you're programming ONLY for money, then open source isn't for you.  I mark assignments, and there are a lot of people there who are obvoiusly only in the course because they want to make money some day, and obviously have no talent.   Some people really are in it for the money, but I do it for fun and because I enjoy it.

<edit> I should say again, I have nothing against Microsoft or Windows.  some people should use them, and they definately have a place.  I just personally prefer Linux, and i will use it, and I prefer open source, so I will use that.

[Hostile]

Programming isn't a job for money... It pays a nice honest living but unless you're managment in it or hope to be you won't be much of a millionaire anytime soon. Programming really isn't much of a job you can do without atleast somewhat enjoying programming, even if you don't like the jobs you usually get. I'm just saying theres all these idiots out there programming for open source but it will eventually just backfire onto them as it will lower difficulty and level of expertise a programmer even needs. This will just lower how much their payed, not how much work they have to do. All of them are killing their own passion, so let them.