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[Banana fanna fo fanna]

Java sucks. I needed to write an online game lobby, and discovered how much Java/Swing really sucks. It's way too thread-heavy (threads are BAD...I don't care what you say), slow, overly-OOP and design pattern heavy, and...worst of all...acts differently on different machines. Not to mention you need the absolute latest JVM because they keep changing the classfile format.

Java had good ideas, but implemented them TERRIBLY.

[Grok]

Java sucks. I needed to write an online game lobby, and discovered how much Java/Swing really sucks. It's way too thread-heavy (threads are BAD...I don't care what you say), slow, overly-OOP and design pattern heavy, and...worst of all...acts differently on different machines. Not to mention you need the absolute latest JVM because they keep changing the classfile format.

Java had good ideas, but implemented them TERRIBLY.

Hmm, so all that preaching you did in 2002 about Java was based on what experience?

[iago]

I've spent that last week and a half learning swing, and I'm really enjoying it.  Swing is great to program with, you can do so many cool things.  And I've never had a problem with speed, but I would imagine that would depend a little on your machine.

[Banana fanna fo fanna]

Java sucks. I needed to write an online game lobby, and discovered how much Java/Swing really sucks. It's way too thread-heavy (threads are BAD...I don't care what you say), slow, overly-OOP and design pattern heavy, and...worst of all...acts differently on different machines. Not to mention you need the absolute latest JVM because they keep changing the classfile format.

Java had good ideas, but implemented them TERRIBLY.

Hmm, so all that preaching you did in 2002 about Java was based on what experience?

Based on server-side development...which is great for small-scale servers.

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myndfyre said this already I believe but asp.net will run on linux, so it is a big myth that asp.net has to use iis, and has to run on windows, and that is costs $ to use.