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Já nejsem z USA.

Started by l2k-Shadow, October 08, 2005, 12:12 AM

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l2k-Shadow

Quote from: Shout on October 15, 2005, 08:55 AM
Take your complicated language and blow it out your ass.

PFFFT, self-absorbed fuck.

See? No one was able to defend English. And on top of that I know Czech, Slovak, English fluently and little bit of Polish, Russian, and Spanish. I am not self-absorbed I am just proving people wrong :)

Quote from: Topaz on October 14, 2005, 10:14 PM
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That's 42 letters, 15 more than your simple language, including the letter Ř which NO person speaking English language as their native language can pronounce. I also must mention that many Americans think that English is one of the hardest languages to learn. PFFT self-absorbed fucks.

How do you know what Americans think? How do you know if we can or can't pronounce it? Are you labeling 250 million people as "self absorbed"?

You're making a lot of generalizations, and projecting your anger onto us for little to... no reason.

I'm not angry, I'm actually an extremely calm and optimistic person. All I am doing is simply proving a point to perhaps some people who are too self-absorbed in their little U.S. world.

1) Ok.. how do I know if you can or cannot pronounce something? Well I spoke to many people (yes it's amazing) and nobody is able to pronounce this letter. Even children who learn Czech as their native language sometimes go to language training centers because they are not able to pronounce certain things. Ex: word kříž, meaning cross... or a tounge twister 'třista třicet tři stříbrných stříkaček stříkalo přes třista třicet tři stříbrných střech'. I was lucky enough to not have to do this.

2) Again I am talking about a lot of people I have talked to who apparently believe English is hard to learn and speak due to spelling and pronunciation. Ok so in Czech you say everything the same way you write it so there is no spelling problems. However  the placement of letters like í and ý makes a huge difference. Ex: word 'mít' means to have but word 'mýt' means to rinse or to wash. I also already talked about the letters and pronunciation of those and what not.
Quote from: replaced on November 04, 2006, 11:54 AM
I dunno wat it means, someone tell me whats ix86 and pmac?
Can someone send me a working bot source (with bnls support) to my email?  Then help me copy and paste it to my bot? ;D
Já jsem byl určenej abych tady žil,
Dával si ovar, křen a k tomu pivo pil.
Tam by ses povídaj jak prase v žitě měl,
Já nechci před nikym sednout si na prdel.

Já nejsem z USA, já nejsem z USA, já vážně nejsem z USA... a snad se proto na mě nezloběj.

Topaz

The mit and myt concept is pretty similar to English's, and it may very well derrive from Czech. I can tell you that English -IS- a difficult language to learn, especially after doing community hours at an ESL center.

All your comments about Americans being self-absorbed and challenging people to defend English show two things:

1) You're arrogant
2) You're looking for a fight


Joe[x86]

Quote from: l2k-Shadow on October 14, 2005, 09:43 AM
English sucks due to the fact it's one of the simplest languages spoken today... unlike Czech which is one of the hardest languages, which uses letter alphabet, to learn and speak correctly. It's not as simple as English, the language itself has and you are able to construct much more sophisticated sentences, unlike in English where it is extremely hard or impossible. For example, in Czech I can construct a paragraph where all the words start on the letter H. Can you do that in English? Try it please. I also dislike English due to the fact 95% of what you call "cuss" words revolve around three words, fuck, shit, and bitch... unlike in Czech where there is a huge variety. Also please take a look at the letters found in Czech:

A, Á, B, C, Č, D, Ď, E, É, Ě, F, G, H, CH, I, Í, J, K, L, M, N, Ň, O, Ó, P, Q, R, Ř, S, Š, T, Ť, U, Ú, Ů, V, W, X, Y, Ý, Z, Ž

That's 42 letters, 15 more than your simple language, including the letter Ř which NO person speaking English language as their native language can pronounce. I also must mention that many Americans think that English is one of the hardest languages to learn. PFFT self-absorbed fucks.

Czech is a unique language which I am glad I can read, write, and speak fluently... now I learned to fluently speak English in 4 months, would you learn to fluently speak Czech in that time? I really don't think so. So, please someone defend English now. :)

Not to be a personal attack or anything, but why is it that the Czech Republic, and maybe Slovakia, use your language, when the entire world uses ours? Hm..
Quote from: brew on April 25, 2007, 07:33 PM
that made me feel like a total idiot. this entire thing was useless.

l2k-Shadow

Because it's the simplest language to learn and speak fluently, that's my whole point. Not every average moron can learn Czech... but every average moron has a good chance of learning English due to the fact you can word all the letters and syllables with ease. And btw, Slovakia's official language is Slovak, however, Czech and Slovak are so similar that if I'd speak Czech to a Slovak and he'd speak Slovak back to me, we'd understand each other.. for the most part. Kind of like American and British English but bit more complex.

And no I'm not arrogant, or self-absorbed, or angry... I'm just making a discussion about some things which occur to me quite often, and making some points about why they are wrong. Topaz, you may say that English is hard to learn, but how would you know... from ESL centers? It all depends on the neighborhood and if people there have the need to speak English... I went to a school in an all-hispanic neighborhood in Chicago where the people did not find it neccessary to learn English due to the fact Spanish was spoken 95% of the time. You learned English as your first language, I learned English as my second language and spoke it fluently after only few months of being around it. I am not saying English is a bad language, I just think that certain things about it are too simple and English classes annoy me due to the fact they try to make English a complex thing.. which it's not. I guess English classes are also the reason where some people get the impression English is hard. Also I do not understand at all why you have to learn English vocabulary words in class... you will never use these words anyway. I guess there is a reason for it maybe to just keep students busy, I don't know but eh that's just me.

Sorry if I seemed an asshole, I guess I should have worded certain things differently, I'm not picking a fight against you or your country, no matter how many things I see wrong about the court system or the government, but trying to make a discussion about certain things people might misunderstand.
Quote from: replaced on November 04, 2006, 11:54 AM
I dunno wat it means, someone tell me whats ix86 and pmac?
Can someone send me a working bot source (with bnls support) to my email?  Then help me copy and paste it to my bot? ;D
Já jsem byl určenej abych tady žil,
Dával si ovar, křen a k tomu pivo pil.
Tam by ses povídaj jak prase v žitě měl,
Já nechci před nikym sednout si na prdel.

Já nejsem z USA, já nejsem z USA, já vážně nejsem z USA... a snad se proto na mě nezloběj.

shout

I was simply saying you seem quite self absorbed, putting your 'complex, artistic, and totally perfect' language above other peoples 'simple, stupid, and infinitly inferior' language. I know you never said 4 of those words, but this is the message you put across.

If you had a letter for every diffrent sound for each English letter:

ə , 'ə, ə, ər, a, ä, æ, är, aů, b, ch, d, e, er, ē, f, g, h, hw, i, ir, ī, j, k, ĸ, l, m, n, ŋ, ō, o, ọ, ọr, œ, oi, p, r, s, sh, t, th, th, ü, ů, ůr, ue, v, w, y, y, z, zh

51 diffrent sounds from 26 letters. This does not include dipthongs not ending in e (for some reason those are classified diffrently) or trithongs.. This makes pronounciation very difficult for people who do not speak native English. For example, many spanish-speakers find the 'sh' sound difficult. They also have trouble with the long a and dipthongs.

You probably had an easy time learning English becase it is a germanic langauge, like Czech and Slovak. Spanish is a Latin language, obviously coming from Latin. I don't think you would be able to learn Mandrin or Arabic in the 4 months you learned english, simply because they are not from the same langauge group.

l2k-Shadow

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Czech and Slovak are slavic languages, not germanic... lol...

I am not considering my language totally perfect, I am considering it a nicer language due to the fact it's more colorful and how well you can manipulate all it has inside it, unlike English where it is harder.
Quote from: replaced on November 04, 2006, 11:54 AM
I dunno wat it means, someone tell me whats ix86 and pmac?
Can someone send me a working bot source (with bnls support) to my email?  Then help me copy and paste it to my bot? ;D
Já jsem byl určenej abych tady žil,
Dával si ovar, křen a k tomu pivo pil.
Tam by ses povídaj jak prase v žitě měl,
Já nechci před nikym sednout si na prdel.

Já nejsem z USA, já nejsem z USA, já vážně nejsem z USA... a snad se proto na mě nezloběj.

Topaz

Actually, Mandarin/Cantonese (Chinese dialects) were my first language. The ESL showed a great many things - how complex the English language was, in comparison to Spanish, several East Asian languages, and Afrikaans. The fact that you grew up with Czech, English probably does indeed seem simple - but for much of the rest of the world, it isn't.

Now, tell me what you seem to find wrong about our court system and government. It's been working oh-so-well for the past two hundred years :)

Joe[x86]

אם העולם שונא אותך, פשוט זוכר שהם שנאו לי ראשונים.
Quote from: brew on April 25, 2007, 07:33 PM
that made me feel like a total idiot. this entire thing was useless.

topaz

It's been four months since your last post, shadow. Want to finish what you started?
RLY...?

Explicit

Joe just had to bump this, huh?
I'm awake in the infinite cold.

[13:41:45]<@Fapiko> Why is TehUser asking for wang pictures?
[13:42:03]<@TehUser> I wasn't asking for wang pictures, I was looking at them.
[13:47:40]<@TehUser> Mine's fairly short.

Joe[x86]

Quote from: brew on April 25, 2007, 07:33 PM
that made me feel like a total idiot. this entire thing was useless.

Explicit

Oh well.

Quote from: Joe on January 31, 2006, 10:05 PM
אם העולם שונא אותך, פשוט זוכר שהם שנאו לי ראשונים.

So what's this mean?  Or is it just gibberish?
I'm awake in the infinite cold.

[13:41:45]<@Fapiko> Why is TehUser asking for wang pictures?
[13:42:03]<@TehUser> I wasn't asking for wang pictures, I was looking at them.
[13:47:40]<@TehUser> Mine's fairly short.

Mystical

Well, back in the day, when i use to go to school, lol..

  I took, French courses along with spanish, as they teach you when learning a new language that English is one of the most hardest languages to learn, I may not make this sound right; right now, just because im tired, n its 5am but its hard because there are slient letters, like some words are spelt the same, but mean differnt things, some words are spelt differntly but sound exactly the same also while meaning completely differnt things, thats just 1 thing, im sure i can think up of more in due time. ;)

but some examples of what i mean

witch
which

There
Thier

rine
rhine

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