New Mexico boarder gets a fence

[Grok]

Most everyone in this country is an illegal immigrant or descended from one.  Before it was America we were invaders, and it only became ours because we shot and killed so many of the rightful residents.  During the 1700s and 1800s, after we were "legitimate", tens of millions of Irish, Polish, German, Italian, and others were each at one point or another called names for coming to America and "taking our jobs" and "barely speaking English".  They were ruining it for the genuine Americans.

We've heard all these bigoted small-minded provincial arguments before.  You can wrap them in whatever package you wish, but America is greatest when people can immigrate here and TAKE ADVANTAGE of the system that is in place.  You get pissed when the cashier at the burger joint cannot understand you, but yet you won't take the job yourself.  You don't like all the migrant farm workers because they're illegally working, but do you gather up your friends and go pick potatoes for $15/day to take their jobs?  I didn't think so.

[Arta]

Word. Couldn't agree more.

[Topaz]

Most everyone in this country is an illegal immigrant or descended from one.  Before it was America we were invaders, and it only became ours because we shot and killed so many of the rightful residents.  During the 1700s and 1800s, after we were "legitimate", tens of millions of Irish, Polish, German, Italian, and others were each at one point or another called names for coming to America and "taking our jobs" and "barely speaking English".  They were ruining it for the genuine Americans.

We've heard all these bigoted small-minded provincial arguments before.  You can wrap them in whatever package you wish, but America is greatest when people can immigrate here and TAKE ADVANTAGE of the system that is in place.  You get pissed when the cashier at the burger joint cannot understand you, but yet you won't take the job yourself.  You don't like all the migrant farm workers because they're illegally working, but do you gather up your friends and go pick potatoes for $15/day to take their jobs?  I didn't think so.

Settlers*

[Grok]

Settlers are now Mexican, Chinese, Vietnamese, Haitian, ...

[hismajesty]

Most everyone in this country is an illegal immigrant or descended from one. Before it was America we were invaders, and it only became ours because we shot and killed so many of the rightful residents. During the 1700s and 1800s, after we were "legitimate", tens of millions of Irish, Polish, German, Italian, and others were each at one point or another called names for coming to America and "taking our jobs" and "barely speaking English". They were ruining it for the genuine Americans.

We've heard all these bigoted small-minded provincial arguments before. You can wrap them in whatever package you wish, but America is greatest when people can immigrate here and TAKE ADVANTAGE of the system that is in place. You get pissed when the cashier at the burger joint cannot understand you, but yet you won't take the job yourself. You don't like all the migrant farm workers because they're illegally working, but do you gather up your friends and go pick potatoes for $15/day to take their jobs? I didn't think so.

I don't have a Mexican problem locally, I've said that. There's only 200-250,000 illegals in Virginia, and most of them are up north. There are a good number where I am now too, which is in the middleish part of the state. Where I am the burger people are generally English (or ebonic) speaking. However, at many Mexican restraunts conversation with the staff can be a challenge.

Anyway, your argument is stupid. Our ancestors weren't illegals, there was no immigration law established when we came over and took the indians (and, by the way, my great great grandma (I think that's it) was full Cherokee) land. I'm fairly certain when my ancestors came here from England and Ireland, they weren't running across a border (did you see that clip this morning?) or in any way trying to avoid border patrol.

Let me make it clear, I have no problem with people immigrating here, it's how America got so big. However, if they're going to immigrate here, they need to do it LEGALLY. Go through the natrualization process, learn our culture and language, and become Americans. I think that, from now on, since you support us learning their language and conforming to them so much that you should post all of your future posts in Spanish (w/o the use of a translator.) I don't care if you speak it or not, but do that from now on please.

[dxoigmn]

I don't have a Mexican problem locally, I've said that. There's only 200-250,000 illegals in Virginia, and most of them are up north. There are a good number where I am now too, which is in the middleish part of the state. Where I am the burger people are generally English (or ebonic) speaking. However, at many Mexican restraunts conversation with the staff can be a challenge.

What do you expect? It's a Mexican restaurant!

Anyway, your argument is stupid. Our ancestors weren't illegals, there was no immigration law established when we came over and took the indians (and, by the way, my great great grandma (I think that's it) was full Cherokee) land. I'm fairly certain when my ancestors came here from England and Ireland, they weren't running across a border (did you see that clip this morning?) or in any way trying to avoid border patrol.

I am part white myself. I'm pretty sure my great great great grandma was Dutch or something but I can't really prove it. Anyways, there were a lot of illegal immigrants coming from Europe. And you cannot prove there was "no immigration law established." Typically, if you are at war with someone that means you don't want them on your land.

Let me make it clear, I have no problem with people immigrating here, it's how America got so big. However, if they're going to immigrate here, they need to do it LEGALLY. Go through the natrualization process, learn our culture and language, and become Americans.

If you look at the early immigration periods many europeans coming to america did not speak english. It was a huge barrier, yet you have nothing to say about them.

I think that, from now on, since you support us learning their language and conforming to them so much that you should post all of your future posts in Spanish (w/o the use of a translator.) I don't care if you speak it or not, but do that from now on please.

Your thought process is inane and narrow.