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Started by Invert, February 10, 2005, 04:33 AM

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Do you use:

HTML
5 (41.7%)
XHTML
7 (58.3%)

Total Members Voted: 10

Voting closed: February 25, 2005, 04:33 AM

dxoigmn

#15
Quote from: quasi-modo on February 14, 2005, 05:40 AM
HTML does not force you to mix style with structure though. My point is browser support of xhtml is not all that wonderful. It is as accessible as html at best, but can never be better.

I never said HTML forces you to mix style and structure so that has no relevance what-so-ever.  It may not force you but it certainly encourages you too mix the two.

There's no need for you to have a point.  I stated a simple fact and you turned it into an argument by telling me something I agree with.  Meanwhile, I'm here trying to explain to you that your argument has nothing to do with what I said.

Mitosis

Is it <i> bad </i> to style tables? Check the source on my page, www.dark-wire.net/sh/newd.html  That's all I know how to do webcoding...Is it worth getting into the new stufF?

Grok

Quote from: quasi-modo on February 13, 2005, 08:09 PM
Your website should work on all platforms, period.

Here is where we fundamentally disagree, and if on the fundamentals we stay in disagreement, our philosophies on web development will stay opposed.

I believe I should engineer my sites and write my code to internet standards, as strict as possible.  This actually increases site portability and usability.  Web pages are not screens, and should not be treated as such.  CSS differentiates device types, which is why it is separate from document content and structure.

quasi-modo

Quote from: Grok on February 14, 2005, 04:10 PM
Quote from: quasi-modo on February 13, 2005, 08:09 PM
Your website should work on all platforms, period.

Here is where we fundamentally disagree, and if on the fundamentals we stay in disagreement, our philosophies on web development will stay opposed.

I believe I should engineer my sites and write my code to internet standards, as strict as possible.  This actually increases site portability and usability.  Web pages are not screens, and should not be treated as such.  CSS differentiates device types, which is why it is separate from document content and structure.
How are we disagreeing?
WAR EAGLE!
Quote(00:04:08) zdv17: yeah i quit doing that stuff cause it jacked up the power bill too much
(00:04:19) nick is a turtle: Right now im not paying the power bill though
(00:04:33) nick is a turtle: if i had to pay the electric bill
(00:04:47) nick is a turtle: id hibernate when i go to class
(00:04:57) nick is a turtle: or at least when i go to sleep
(00:08:50) zdv17: hibernating in class is cool.. esp. when you leave a drool puddle

quasi-modo

Quote from: dxoigmn on February 14, 2005, 02:17 PM
Quote from: quasi-modo on February 14, 2005, 05:40 AM
HTML does not force you to mix style with structure though. My point is browser support of xhtml is not all that wonderful. It is as accessible as html at best, but can never be better.

I never said HTML forces you to mix style and structure so that has no relevance what-so-ever.  It may not force you but it certainly encourages you too mix the two.

There's no need for you to have a point.  I stated a simple fact and you turned it into an argument by telling me something I agree with.  Meanwhile, I'm here trying to explain to you that your argument has nothing to do with what I said.

QuoteThey're more accessible than most HTML 4.01 pages.
You quoted me originally saying that xhtml pages are more accessible than most html pages. Document style with css has nothing to do with it. Xhtml is pointless to use right now as it is not more accessible then html. That is what I have been trying to communicate in my posts.
WAR EAGLE!
Quote(00:04:08) zdv17: yeah i quit doing that stuff cause it jacked up the power bill too much
(00:04:19) nick is a turtle: Right now im not paying the power bill though
(00:04:33) nick is a turtle: if i had to pay the electric bill
(00:04:47) nick is a turtle: id hibernate when i go to class
(00:04:57) nick is a turtle: or at least when i go to sleep
(00:08:50) zdv17: hibernating in class is cool.. esp. when you leave a drool puddle

quasi-modo

Quote from: Mitosis on February 14, 2005, 03:58 PM
Is it <i> bad </i> to style tables? Check the source on my page, www.dark-wire.net/sh/newd.html  That's all I know how to do webcoding...Is it worth getting into the new stufF?
It is bad to use tables in general for layout purposes. I have nothign against the use of a style sheet with a table... I have something against markup that is not semantically correct. The table is perfectly fine when it is used for what it was originally intended for... tabular data.
WAR EAGLE!
Quote(00:04:08) zdv17: yeah i quit doing that stuff cause it jacked up the power bill too much
(00:04:19) nick is a turtle: Right now im not paying the power bill though
(00:04:33) nick is a turtle: if i had to pay the electric bill
(00:04:47) nick is a turtle: id hibernate when i go to class
(00:04:57) nick is a turtle: or at least when i go to sleep
(00:08:50) zdv17: hibernating in class is cool.. esp. when you leave a drool puddle