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Started by j0k3r, September 13, 2004, 06:59 PM

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j0k3r

Saw this on another forum, I've asked for the reference.

QuoteMonday, December 1 12:01 AM EST

Half-Life 2 Physics Engine
Contains Grand Unified Theory
By David Olsen


Ithaca, NY - Physicists at Cornel-Putnam University (CPU) confirmed yesterday the Holy Grail of Physics, the Grand Unified Theory, is contained in the Half-Life 2 source code. For decades Einstein attempted to weave together all aspects of physics into one grand unified theory, and although he failed many physicists have continued his work, seemingly in vain.

The Half-Life 2 source code leaked onto the Internet by an unknown hacker last month after he or she compromised one of the computers it was stored on. This allowed physicists at CPU to analyze the revolutionary physics engine.

Dr. Harvey McLeod said in his statement early yesterday, "I overheard one of my students talking in class, about how he was playing the Half-Life 2 beta and how exact the physics engine was. I became intrigued. I didn't think that a computer had the processing power to compute all the different physics equations quickly enough to animate the game flawlessly. I was right, they were just computing one equation."

Game Engine Software Engineer at Valve, Jose Garcia discovered the theory. "The game engine ran too slowly. I was assigned the job of speeding it up," he said. "I started out by combining some of the gravity equations with some of the other force equations and found it all started to fit together. After a day, I had fine-tuned the entire physics-animation functions down to four lines of code, which ran a bit faster," he added.

Game Engine Development Manager at Valve, David Price released a press briefing later in the day accusing Dr. McLeod of "theft of intellectual property" and "releasing of a trade secret". He went on to state the internal workings of the Half-Life 2 physics engine were the sole property of Valve. Any equations it contained, and anybody creating derivative works or publishing the equation in any way would be sued.

Clayton Wilkins, a lawyer for Dr. McLeod, argued the equation cannot be intellectual property because it "describes physics itself, which has existed for 14 billion years from the time of The Big Bang to the present. Dr. McLeod's right to free press governs his publishing of the equation under fair use laws."

Lawyers for Valve responded to the arguments by filing a lawsuit against Dr. McLeod and asking a judge for an injunction against his publishing of the equation.


Dr. McLeod was stunned by the news. "Where would physics be today if other fundamental equations were copyrighted? E=MC^2 Copyright Albert Einstein, 1917! What of physics? Every theory is built on other theories and if we are legally bound against using the grand unified theory our entire field is in a stalemate. It's not like we can just find another 'one equation, which describes all of physics' there is only one! There can be only one!"

Valve deferred all further questions to their legal department

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QuoteAnyone attempting to generate random numbers by deterministic means is, of course, living in a state of sin
John Vo

quasi-modo

go Dr. Harvey McLeod. Valve sucks.
WAR EAGLE!
Quote(00:04:08) zdv17: yeah i quit doing that stuff cause it jacked up the power bill too much
(00:04:19) nick is a turtle: Right now im not paying the power bill though
(00:04:33) nick is a turtle: if i had to pay the electric bill
(00:04:47) nick is a turtle: id hibernate when i go to class
(00:04:57) nick is a turtle: or at least when i go to sleep
(00:08:50) zdv17: hibernating in class is cool.. esp. when you leave a drool puddle

j0k3r

I disagree, the programmer(?) did some hard work and accomplished something even some of the most renowned scientists were unable to do. I disagree with them wanting it to be freely distributed and used, but it is his work and part of Valve's program and hence is their intellectual property. Sorry if that was a little vague or badly phrased, but I think you get my point.

I feel it should be distributed and used in physics, but not used in other games or programs.
QuoteAnyone attempting to generate random numbers by deterministic means is, of course, living in a state of sin
John Vo

Spht

Umm...  This thread is a joke right?

dxoigmn

#4
Quote from: Spht on September 13, 2004, 08:14 PM
Umm...  This thread is a joke right?

Haha, it seems like they are taking it a little too seriously.

Edit:  A search on googled yielded BBspot and this article.  Interestingly enough, an overclocker also created a rift in the space-time continuum.  Amazing scientific work!

j0k3r

Quote from: Spht on September 13, 2004, 08:14 PM
Umm...  This thread is a joke right?
The original post had no air of being a joke, and I have asked for the reference.
QuoteAnyone attempting to generate random numbers by deterministic means is, of course, living in a state of sin
John Vo

quasi-modo

#6
Quote from: j0k3r on September 13, 2004, 08:03 PM
I disagree, the programmer(?) did some hard work and accomplished something even some of the most renowned scientists were unable to do. I disagree with them wanting it to be freely distributed and used, but it is his work and part of Valve's program and hence is their intellectual property. Sorry if that was a little vague or badly phrased, but I think you get my point.

I feel it should be distributed and used in physics, but not used in other games or programs.
Well if they used the source code in other games yeah you are right, but this guy was not doing that. He was just looking at it out of curiosity. I can see valve taking another company into court that tries to use a bunch of their code, but a guy who wanted to use their code as a class example or something? Maybe I do not know the whole story. I am not a fan of valve in general btw.

Rofl at the oc space time continuum article
WAR EAGLE!
Quote(00:04:08) zdv17: yeah i quit doing that stuff cause it jacked up the power bill too much
(00:04:19) nick is a turtle: Right now im not paying the power bill though
(00:04:33) nick is a turtle: if i had to pay the electric bill
(00:04:47) nick is a turtle: id hibernate when i go to class
(00:04:57) nick is a turtle: or at least when i go to sleep
(00:08:50) zdv17: hibernating in class is cool.. esp. when you leave a drool puddle

j0k3r

I don't think anybody likes Valve, but that is besides the point.
QuoteAnyone attempting to generate random numbers by deterministic means is, of course, living in a state of sin
John Vo

Arta


iago

#9
Quote from: Arta[vL] on September 14, 2004, 03:10 PM
Obviously a joke.

I agree.  If the "Grand Unified Theory" was discovered, it would be an enormous breakthrough, and wouldn't be reported in just a single place.  Plus, I don't see why a game engine would need to worry about relativity or quantum mechanics, which are the major forces that the GUT would have to explain.

Still a funny artical, though! :)
This'll make an interesting test for broken AV:
QuoteX5O!P%@AP[4\PZX54(P^)7CC)7}$EICAR-STANDARD-ANTIVIRUS-TEST-FILE!$H+H*


j0k3r

Ah, you guys know more than me so I'll believe you.

The source is located here: http://www.bbspot.com/News/2003/12/valve_unified_theory.html
QuoteAnyone attempting to generate random numbers by deterministic means is, of course, living in a state of sin
John Vo

Hitmen

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