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Started by Goblin, October 30, 2003, 08:55 AM

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DarkVirus

I sometimes DONT sleep so I CAN read and learn While normally I'll fall asleep in the process, I've yet to successfully sleep AND read at the same time.  8)
To restrict ones ability to learn based on current surroundings means to never learn anything at all. - DarkVirus

CupHead

For the record, I obtain information via osmosis during sleep.

iago

Quote from: CupHead on November 01, 2003, 07:59 AM
For the record, I obtain information via osmosis during sleep.

I keep my laptop sitting on a book, mostly for ventalation, but I figure it couldn't hurt if my laptop learns 64-bit assembly :)
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Dyndrilliac

I'll admit, im a newb at vb, but i learned a lot just by experimentation. The first 3 things i learned have become my crutch when working with VB:

If>Then>else Statements
Dim Statements and variables
Basic Code setup (controlname.propertyname = propertyvalue)

That laid my groundwork. Another helpful thin in VB6 is if you type part of a piece of code, and it's correct, then it will try to auto guess the rest, which is fun to experiment with. Also, if you start typing something and let it sit, a cool small yellow box will pop up with the syntax, which is always helpful when trying something new.

My advice to all, is hands on experience is the best teacher.  If your a newb at VB i suggest starting with calculators and working your way up.
Quote from: Edsger W. DijkstraIt is practically impossible to teach good programming to students that have had a prior exposure to BASIC; as potential programmers they are mentally mutilated beyond hope of regeneration.

Goblin

Alright, so C++ it is!
i figure, if im gona spend a good amout of time on something, i might as well spend it on something worth my while.
now i just gotta find the time to get my ass to a book store and buy the books!
oh and just so i can get a good idea on how much ill be spending; what will a good c++ book cost me?

thanks guys! you've been lotsa help!
goblin

Hitmen

Quote from: Goblin on November 01, 2003, 10:11 AM
now i just gotta find the time to get my ass to a book store and buy the books!
oh and just so i can get a good idea on how much ill be spending; what will a good c++ book cost me?

At a book store you'll probably end up spending between $50-100.

DarkVirus

Quote from: Goblin on November 01, 2003, 10:11 AM
Alright, so C++ it is!
i figure, if im gona spend a good amout of time on something, i might as well spend it on something worth my while.
now i just gotta find the time to get my ass to a book store and buy the books!
oh and just so i can get a good idea on how much ill be spending; what will a good c++ book cost me?

thanks guys! you've been lotsa help!
goblin

www.campusi.com

Search the used market and buy a decent book. As always, I suggest www.johnsmiley.com as my author of choice, but after not getting into C++ for a few years (this was 6 months back...) I reverted to Deitel and Deitel.  C++ How To Program 4th Edition. Great book. Love every step of it. Informative as well as resourceful for any need in my opinion. Just the book will run (used) around 50 bucks which is opposed to the retail of ~100. If you get it WITH the software its around 75 for the package opposed to 115 bucks. Assuming you've aquired an illegal version of a C++ compiler (or already have one regardless) then go with the standard edition.  I don't recommend ANYTHING from the Microsoft Press so don't waste your time.
To restrict ones ability to learn based on current surroundings means to never learn anything at all. - DarkVirus

Grok

#22
I recommend going to Barnes & Noble or Books-A-Million, or any bookstore that has some comfortable sofas.  Standing in front of the shelves, glance through the VB books until you find a few that you can read easily.  Each book is written differently, you need an writer and style that you can understand.  Also, the content has to be presented in a way that makes sense to you.

Take those books and plop down on the chairs, read through about 20-25 pages of each one.  Buy the one you're most comfortable with learning the best from.

Michael

#23
you may also want to try
http://www.vtc.com/vb6.htm
very good movies/clips that teach you the basics of Visual Basic it helped me alot may i also suggest for someone around my level to check out
http://www.valhallalegends.com/cuphead/
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