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Started by Joe[x86], March 29, 2006, 09:28 AM

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Joe[x86]

I heard they don't support the full IA32 instruction set. Is this true? What instructions does it not support? I'm looking into getting a new processor in the near future, because I don't feel like ordering a whole new box, but some components are old-ish.
Quote from: brew on April 25, 2007, 07:33 PM
that made me feel like a total idiot. this entire thing was useless.

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Usually AMD gets on board with Intel's spec shortly after Intel releases it (note that AMD supports SSE2 and SSE3).  Having said so, I'm relatively sure that they have the same instruction set (at least on x86), and if they have machine code differences they're minimal.  Unfortunately, I'm not down for Google hunting for an answer - three different searches don't turn up much of a result.  ;)
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Quote from: J on March 29, 2006, 09:28 AM
I heard they don't support the full IA32 instruction set. Is this true? What instructions does it not support? I'm looking into getting a new processor in the near future, because I don't feel like ordering a whole new box, but some components are old-ish.

What kind of fraternity is  Sigma upsilon kappa?

Joe[x86]

Quote from: warz on March 30, 2006, 03:49 AM
Quote from: J on March 29, 2006, 09:28 AM
I heard they don't support the full IA32 instruction set. Is this true? What instructions does it not support? I'm looking into getting a new processor in the near future, because I don't feel like ordering a whole new box, but some components are old-ish.

What kind of fraternity is Sigma upsilon kappa?

Sigma upsilon kappa is transliterated to SUK, because Greek lacks a C. I suk.
Quote from: brew on April 25, 2007, 07:33 PM
that made me feel like a total idiot. this entire thing was useless.

Warrior

Oh god..if there is any difference it would be so minimal you would hardly notice unless you program at the OS level.
Quote from: effect on March 09, 2006, 11:52 PM
Islam is a steaming pile of fucking dog shit. Everything about it is flawed, anybody who believes in it is a terrorist, if you disagree with me, then im sorry your wrong.

Quote from: Rule on May 07, 2006, 01:30 PM
Why don't you stop being American and start acting like a decent human?

Joe[x86]

Quote from: Warrior on March 30, 2006, 03:48 PM
Oh god..if there is any difference it would be so minimal you would hardly notice unless you program at the OS level.

Which is exactly why I asked?
Quote from: brew on April 25, 2007, 07:33 PM
that made me feel like a total idiot. this entire thing was useless.

Warrior

But you don't program at the low level, either way the differences can be seen by either googling a reference or comparing the AMD Docs to the Intel ones. AMD *should* list somewhere what they break/don't break.

Hint: Until you get really nasty into kernel development this shouldn't matter, with proper architecture branching in your code you should be able to detect processor features by using cpuid and enabling/disabling them at your liking in your system.
Quote from: effect on March 09, 2006, 11:52 PM
Islam is a steaming pile of fucking dog shit. Everything about it is flawed, anybody who believes in it is a terrorist, if you disagree with me, then im sorry your wrong.

Quote from: Rule on May 07, 2006, 01:30 PM
Why don't you stop being American and start acting like a decent human?

Joe[x86]

You seem to have forgotten a good 10 hours of your life from a few months ago. I did do pre-kernel development, and you should know that having taught me nearly all that I know.
Quote from: brew on April 25, 2007, 07:33 PM
that made me feel like a total idiot. this entire thing was useless.

Warrior

I taught you nearly nothing, it much more complicated. It's only the tip of the iceburg, read what I said for your answer.
Quote from: effect on March 09, 2006, 11:52 PM
Islam is a steaming pile of fucking dog shit. Everything about it is flawed, anybody who believes in it is a terrorist, if you disagree with me, then im sorry your wrong.

Quote from: Rule on May 07, 2006, 01:30 PM
Why don't you stop being American and start acting like a decent human?

Joe[x86]

Everybody starts somewhere, but yeah. You were a horrible teacher. <3

Thanks guys.
Quote from: brew on April 25, 2007, 07:33 PM
that made me feel like a total idiot. this entire thing was useless.