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#1
General Discussion / Re: Logical Questions
July 28, 2009, 06:15 PM
Quote from: MyndFyre on July 28, 2009, 10:12 AM
With a 20 picture quizzes having 10 pictures each, you're looking at 200 different resources.  Even though 200 sounds large, it's trivial to have a human solve them and then feed the pairing of questions and answers into a database.  I don't think that makes it resource-intensive.

I don't remember which site was doing this - I think a porn site - was showing users free images in exchange for solving Yahoo captchas.

Ultimately I think that you'll see automation techniques continue to be refined and the massive amount of internetworked brainpower continue to try to overcome them.
Forgive my stupidity but... didn't you just say the same thing as I did in my post, adding porn sites already do the exact same thing as I describe? Although I do think you've misinterpreted what I mean by "resources". I'm talking CPU power and bandwidth. :-\

For clarification, if I was unclear: use a simple system for keeping the web roaming bots off (hidden inputs, whatever; invisible and unobtrusive) and for targeted attacks just limit it to X accounts per IP/user agent/cookie every Y hours. Removal of inactive accounts wouldn't be bad, either.

PS: I tend to use a javascript solution to keep 99% of the bots off, giving users who have javascript disabled the possibility of solving a captcha instead.
#2
General Discussion / Re: Logical Questions
July 28, 2009, 08:26 AM
If any bot would break *any* of these obstacles on any major scale it'd be so resource-intensive it'd have to be a targeted attack. If that's the case it'd be much cheaper (for the attackers) to hire twenty people that sit for six hours, just creating new accounts.

Captchas (and similar system) won't work in the long run. Because either it'd be too hard for a human being to solve, or simple enough for a smart bot. Are you sure you're concerned more about *who* registers rather than at what volumes and/or speeds?