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Programming => Battle.net Bot Development => Topic started by: Yoni on April 08, 2003, 12:27 PM

Poll
Question: Your CleanSlateBot control is named...
Option 1: CleanSlateBot1 votes: 4
Option 2: CleanSlateBot1(Index) votes: 0
Option 3: csbMyBot votes: 0
Option 4: csbMyBot(Index) votes: 1
Option 5: I don't use CleanSlateBot, you insensitive clod! votes: 22
Option 6: I don't use VB, you insensitive clod! votes: 18
Title: A poll for bot developers
Post by: Yoni on April 08, 2003, 12:27 PM
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Title: Re:A poll for bot developers
Post by: iago on April 08, 2003, 01:02 PM
I don't use vb anymore :-)

Well, occasionally, but I try to avoid it.
Title: Re:A poll for bot developers
Post by: Zakath on April 08, 2003, 02:36 PM
I've never learned VB. 8)
Title: Re:A poll for bot developers
Post by: Spht on April 08, 2003, 05:40 PM
Quote from: Zakath on April 08, 2003, 02:36 PM
I've never learned VB. 8)

Shouldn't that 8) be a  :(??
Title: Re:A poll for bot developers
Post by: Zakath on April 08, 2003, 05:53 PM
No. ;D
Title: Re:A poll for bot developers
Post by: iago on April 08, 2003, 06:35 PM
I would have to agree with zak there.
Title: Re:A poll for bot developers
Post by: Banana fanna fo fanna on April 08, 2003, 07:20 PM
vb is fucking gay.
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Title: Re:A poll for bot developers
Post by: Grok on April 09, 2003, 06:43 AM
What does VB have to do with CSB?

CSB is a COM component and can be used from any COM-enabled host.
Title: Re:A poll for bot developers
Post by: tA-Kane on April 09, 2003, 07:11 AM
Quote from: Grok on April 09, 2003, 06:43 AM
What does VB have to do with CSB?

CSB is a COM component and can be used from any COM-enabled host.

You answered you own question. But in case you happened to miss the answer, it's "...COM-enabled host [including VB]."
Title: Re:A poll for bot developers
Post by: Yoni on April 09, 2003, 07:30 AM
Quote from: Grok on April 09, 2003, 06:43 AM
What does VB have to do with CSB?

CSB is a COM component and can be used from any COM-enabled host.
CSB is designed so that anyone who's smart enough to use it as a COM server outside of VB is definitely not going to use it.
Title: Re:A poll for bot developers
Post by: Zorm on April 09, 2003, 08:09 PM
I use csb(index) which isn't a poll option  :'(
Title: Re:A poll for bot developers
Post by: Banana fanna fo fanna on April 09, 2003, 09:35 PM
why would you use csb?

note to cuphead: subseven csb.
Title: Re:A poll for bot developers
Post by: Zorm on April 09, 2003, 10:15 PM
cause I made most of it, so why not use it?
Title: Re:A poll for bot developers
Post by: Zakath on April 10, 2003, 12:08 AM
*notes the complete lack of recognition zorm has received for his work on CSB*
Title: Re:A poll for bot developers
Post by: Banana fanna fo fanna on April 10, 2003, 02:29 PM
oops. sorry.
Title: Re:A poll for bot developers
Post by: pianka on April 11, 2003, 12:04 PM
I used CSB like twice, honestly it's a great control, but it shows lack of skill, if you can't write a basic bot just to log on B.NET, that's pretty sad. I mean don't get me wrong, I'm not crapping on CSB or anything... but it takes away the fun from bot development...
Title: Re:A poll for bot developers
Post by: Skywing on April 11, 2003, 01:44 PM
Quote from: PiaNKA on April 11, 2003, 12:04 PM
I used CSB like twice, honestly it's a great control, but it shows lack of skill, if you can't write a basic bot just to log on B.NET, that's pretty sad. I mean don't get me wrong, I'm not crapping on CSB or anything... but it takes away the fun from bot development...
Since you're referring to CSB, I'm assuming that you're talking about binary bots.

Might I point out that you're (probably) using vast quantities of other people's code to "do the hard parts", even if you're not using CSB?  I could be wrong on this, but I'd guess that you didn't write your own CheckRevision, CD-key decoding, CD-key hashing, or logon hashing implementations (just translating somebody else's from C to VB or such doesn't count - somebody had to do it the hard way the first time around).

It takes a fair amount of skill with assembly and reverse engineering to "write a basic bot just to log on B.NET" if you're actually doing things yourself.

Something to think about before you bash people for "taking the easy way out".
Title: Re:A poll for bot developers
Post by: CupHead on April 12, 2003, 01:01 PM
The reason CSB was created was to create a reusable component that would ease bot development.  I didn't particularly want to keep pasting code into new projects or defining classes, so Zorm and I (because we're both horribly lazy) wrote something to make it easy.  Drag and drop bot.  CSB has afforded the bot development community something it never had before, a way for completely new programmers to dive right in and create something.  Fundamentally, the connections to battle.net are going to be the same.  The "fun" in bot development is creating new features and making it interesting for the users of your bot, not rewriting the connection code over and over.  Although, Pianka, for you, fun seems to be spreading various virii and trojans through your files, so why complatin about how people develop their bots?   ;)
Title: Re:A poll for bot developers
Post by: Dayclone on April 12, 2003, 09:29 PM
i should learn VB lol....
Title: Re:A poll for bot developers
Post by: Nova1313 on April 13, 2003, 12:55 PM
"CSB has afforded the bot development community something it never had before, a way for completely new programmers to dive right in and create something. "

kbin.ocx anyone?
Title: Re:A poll for bot developers
Post by: K on April 14, 2003, 11:35 AM
Well, kbin didn't actually parse the packets for you and raise friendly events...But it doesn't matter; I don't yearn for my name in lights or anything.
Title: Re:A poll for bot developers
Post by: WinSocks on April 14, 2003, 11:43 AM
CBS and BNLS made bot programming easier yes, and thus creating those controls/services allowed a new race of newbie "bot programmers" emerge, half of the binary bots out there are altered Dr.Bot's or ethBots or just bots using those controls or services, i find it takes the enjoyment of making a program that someone else codes...... and just altering it to your own likings.

Very Disapointing....