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Title: TCU
Post by: DarkMinion on September 03, 2004, 12:52 AM
 ::)

Their offense is decent, their defense is godawful.  They barely squeaked out a win in their home opener (btw, there were about 15k people there) against North freakin western....48-45 in double OT.

Care to suck on TCU's balls anymore Hazard?
Title: Re:TCU
Post by: Maddox on September 07, 2004, 08:03 PM
Texas sucks.
Title: Re:TCU
Post by: Grok on September 07, 2004, 10:13 PM
Quote from: Maddox on September 07, 2004, 08:03 PM
Texas sucks.

Amen!
Title: Re:TCU
Post by: DarkMinion on September 08, 2004, 02:40 PM
I'll drink to that!
Title: Re:TCU
Post by: Hazard on September 08, 2004, 08:15 PM
Would you care to jerk off Tech's QB from last year anymore DM?
Title: Re:TCU
Post by: Grok on September 08, 2004, 11:25 PM
Quote from: Hazard on September 08, 2004, 08:15 PM
Would you care to jerk off Tech's QB from last year anymore DM?

Heh.  Relax, Chris Leak will be all that soon enough and you won't feel the need to look down on other second-tier teams.  Hope he gets some help on the line soon.  Unfortunately, this is going to be the worst year for the Gators since pre-Spurrier.
Title: Re:TCU
Post by: DarkMinion on September 09, 2004, 12:10 AM
Last year:

Chris Leak passed for 2435 yards, 16 TDs, 11 INTS (QB rating: 132.9)
B.J. Symons passed for 5833 yards, 52 TDs, 22 INTS (QB rating: 151.3)

Almost 2.4x the yards, 3.25x the TDs, and yes, 2x the INTS, but before you start crowing about that...

Chris Leak: 1 INT every 29 attempts...
B.J. Symosn: 1 INT every 33 attempts...



Game, set, and fucking match, bitch.
Title: Re:TCU
Post by: Hazard on September 09, 2004, 06:14 AM
a) Leak did not plan on starting the entire year.
b) Leak = Freshman. Symons = Senior. Can you say experience?
c) An interception with a spread of 4 attempts? Thats conclusive evidence of any sort of talent?
d) How did Tech end up ranked? How did the Gators end up ranked?
Title: Re:TCU
Post by: DarkMinion on September 09, 2004, 04:53 PM
If you weren't trying to imply that Leak was the better QB then I apologize.  ::)

As far as d) goes, that's completely irrelevant to this discussion.  Rankings are very biased towards teams with more history, anyway.  What was your ending record last year?  What was ours?  I think you'll find those are very similar.

In fact, our only common opponent defeated you in the Swamp, the week after we had just finished beating them on the road.

I wouldn't argue that Florida was better than us last year, I just wouldn't.
Title: Re:TCU
Post by: Hazard on September 09, 2004, 08:04 PM
If they are so biased towards teams with history, why was TCU ranked so high again?

Look who you beat, and look who we beat. Notice anything?
Title: Re:TCU
Post by: Grok on September 09, 2004, 09:14 PM
For visual comparison:

Texas Tech 2003  Schedule/Results
Opponent  Result  Record
SMU  W 58-10 1-0 (0-0)
New Mexico  W 42-28 2-0 (0-0)
at No. 18 Mississippi  W 49-45 3-1 (0-0)
Texas A&M  W 59-28 4-1 (1-0)
Iowa State  W 52-21 5-1 (1-0)
Colorado  W 26-21 6-3 (1-1)
at Baylor  W 62-14 7-3 (2-1)
vs Navy  W 38-14 8-5 (2-3)

Florida 2003  Schedule/Results
Opponent  Result  Record
San Jose State  W 65-3
Florida A&M  W 63-3
at Kentucky  W 24-21
at No. 2 LSU  W 19-7
at Arkansas  W 33-28
No. 11 Georgia  W 16-13
Vanderbilt  W 35-17
at South Carolina  W 24-22

Yup Florida definitely beat better competition.
Now compare the losses:

Texas Tech 2003  Schedule/Results
Opponent  Result  Record
at N.C. State  L 49-21
at No. 22 Oklahoma State  L 51-49
at Missouri  L 62-31
at No. 5 Texas  L 43-40
No. 3 Oklahoma  L 56-25

Florida 2003  Schedule/Results
Opponent  Result  Record
at No. 9 Miami  L 38-33
No. 7 Tennessee  L 24-10
No. 18 Mississippi  L 20-17
No. 8 Florida State  L 38-34
vs No. 12 Iowa  L 37-17

Florida lost to far better competition as well.
I don't think anyone is trying to say that Texas Tech is yet playing at Florida's level consistently.  Personally, I find it humorous that you, Hazard, need to compare Florida with Texas Tech in order to get some satisfaction.  My wish for you is that you suffer through these lean years (Zook years) as badly as we did at FSU during Rix's first two years starting :)
Title: Re:TCU
Post by: DarkMinion on September 09, 2004, 09:28 PM
QuoteIf they are so biased towards teams with history, why was TCU ranked so high again?

TCU began this season unranked.  If you would have pulled your head out of your ass for 5 minutes, you would've realized that.

And of course, I realize that Florida is a better overall program than ours, I will not say they were better or worse than we were last year, because we didn't meet on the field.




At any rate, I'm not sure why I'm arguing with a T-shirt fan anyways.  You types of fans make me sick.
Title: Re:TCU
Post by: Hazard on September 11, 2004, 04:50 PM
Must I ask you, Grok, about the quality of the teams that Florida defeated vs. the quality of teams Tech defeated?
Title: Re:TCU
Post by: Grok on September 11, 2004, 08:30 PM
Quote from: Hazard on September 11, 2004, 04:50 PM
Must I ask you, Grok, about the quality of the teams that Florida defeated vs. the quality of teams Tech defeated?

Thought I answered that in my long post, halfway down.
Title: Re:TCU
Post by: DarkMinion on September 11, 2004, 09:15 PM
He did, learn to read.