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Title: Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: Archonist on June 29, 2004, 12:20 PM
I blame bsd. :)
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: UserLoser. on June 29, 2004, 12:22 PM
I was told it was a Syn flood.  What's difference between DDoS and Syn flood?
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: warz on June 29, 2004, 12:25 PM
It was a syn flood. To my knowledge, dos is just a term meaning denial of service. in this case, a syn flood would be a type of dos attack.
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: Bsd on June 29, 2004, 12:26 PM
Sure! Blame the resident packetmonkey... Isn't it ALWAYS Bsd?
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: iago on June 29, 2004, 12:28 PM
DDoS is any kind of distributed denial of service attack.  The most effective DDoS is a syn flood, because it backs up the tcp message queue really badly without doing much else.
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: Archonist on June 29, 2004, 12:31 PM
Quote from: Bsd on June 29, 2004, 12:26 PM
Sure! Blame the resident packetmonkey... Isn't it ALWAYS Bsd?

Usually.
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: Bsd on June 29, 2004, 12:33 PM
DOS is cool, I don't do that kinda stuff any more though.  I think it was Archon!!!!
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: Bsd on June 29, 2004, 12:35 PM
Posted by: UserLoser.       Posted on: Today at 12:22:40pm
I was told it was a Syn flood.  What's difference between DDoS and Syn flood?

Who told you it was a syn flood, btw?
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: Newby on June 29, 2004, 12:37 PM
-QUOTES-

:O!
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: Bsd on June 29, 2004, 12:38 PM
OH YOU MOTHER FUCKER! IT WAS ARCHON NOT ME!!!!

Those logs are old man, get some new material.
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: Archonist on June 29, 2004, 12:39 PM
Quote from: Proby on June 29, 2004, 12:37 PM
-QUOTES-

Muhahha, wasn't me!
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: iago on June 29, 2004, 12:39 PM
DDoS attacks and such are stupid childish things, and I think just about everybody with any kind of maturity looks down on children who do it.  Grow up.
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: Bsd on June 29, 2004, 12:42 PM
I think people with nicknames of animated disney charcters are childish and immature... iago was a fucking annoying, loudmouth, parrot.. You're just an annoying loudmouth ;)
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: Newby on June 29, 2004, 12:42 PM
Quote from: Bsd on June 29, 2004, 12:42 PM
I think people with nicknames of animated disney charcters are childish and immature... iago was a fucking annoying, loudmouth, parrot.. You're just an annoying loudmouth ;)
LMAO.

Is that where the name 'iago' came from?
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: Bsd on June 29, 2004, 12:44 PM
Yes, Aladdin.. Good movie though, Robin Williams is teh pwn.
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: Newby on June 29, 2004, 12:46 PM
Quote from: UserLoser. on June 29, 2004, 12:22 PM
I was told it was a Syn flood.  What's difference between DDoS and Syn flood?
Syn flood stands for syncronize flood. It's where you start a connection and never finish it. At least that's what I remember reading about it :/.

And to my knowledge, Bsd seemed to be bragging about dos'ing redhat.com, so I dunno. Some people seemed to agree with him.  I believe it was xar who said he did.
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: Bsd on June 29, 2004, 01:04 PM
Pfft, redhat sux.. DOWN WITH REDHAT!!!

Omg, I'm a Jr. Member now... WOOO!

I'd like to thanks all those who made this possible..

To iago, thank you for doubting me, to Grok <3 man, to Yoni who taught me that math was fun.. To all those who supported me, thanks!
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: Archonist on June 29, 2004, 01:04 PM
Quote from: Proby on June 29, 2004, 12:46 PM
Quote from: UserLoser. on June 29, 2004, 12:22 PM
I was told it was a Syn flood.  What's difference between DDoS and Syn flood?
Syn flood stands for syncronize flood. It's where you start a connection and never finish it. At least that's what I remember reading about it :/.

And to my knowledge, Bsd seemed to be bragging about dos'ing redhat.com, so I dunno. Some people seemed to agree with him.  I believe it was xar who said he did.

He did take down redhat.com
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: iago on June 29, 2004, 01:07 PM
Quote from: Proby on June 29, 2004, 12:46 PM
Quote from: UserLoser. on June 29, 2004, 12:22 PM
I was told it was a Syn flood.  What's difference between DDoS and Syn flood?
Syn flood stands for syncronize flood. It's where you start a connection and never finish it. At least that's what I remember reading about it :/.

Yes, that's what it is.  SYN is a tcp flack, much like ACK, PSH, etc, but because of how SYN works (which I don't pretend to know much about), it causes the connection to get crappy.

I'll make a post on my forum about the origin of my name.  I've never even _seen_ aladdin, and didn't take my name from there.

Bsd - I didn't doubt you.  I know you that any 12-year-old with a autorooter can do that same thing and run around telling people he's l33t.  I just don't care.
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: Bsd on June 29, 2004, 01:11 PM
1 4m 31337 b4s742d...

Pl34s3 p0s7 y0u2 7h0ugh7s 0n 7h1s...!
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: Archonist on June 29, 2004, 01:14 PM
Quote from: Bsd on June 29, 2004, 01:11 PM
1 4m 31337 b4s742d...

Pl34s3 p0s7 y0u2 7h0ugh7s 0n 7h1s...!

y0u 423 n07 l33t.
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: iago on June 29, 2004, 01:15 PM
ehh, continuing this conversation is pointless.  All I can say is that someday, Bsd ought to grow up.  That's my last thought on this.
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: Denial on June 29, 2004, 01:15 PM
Quote from: Bsd on June 29, 2004, 12:26 PM
Sure! Blame the resident packetmonkey... Isn't it ALWAYS Bsd?

No When vl and fe were "warring" i uh hit vl's site since cuphead loaded on fe
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: Bsd on June 29, 2004, 01:16 PM
pff7 1 4m h4x32 jo02 b0x3n -

PS. iago, shut up.
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: warz on June 29, 2004, 06:48 PM
Not just any kid can create a packet net large enough to do damage. I won't lie. It takes a tad bit of effort. I also won't lie, if I had one I'd probably packet random shit also when I was bored.
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: muert0 on June 29, 2004, 06:55 PM
http://www.grc.com/dos/grcdos.htm
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: Hitmen on June 29, 2004, 07:43 PM
Quote from: muert0 on June 29, 2004, 06:55 PM
http://www.grc.com/dos/grcdos.htm
They way that guy puts the bolded, colored text centered and offset from the rest of his writing way way too often makes him look retarded. :/
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: UserLoser. on June 29, 2004, 11:15 PM
Quote from: Bsd on June 29, 2004, 12:35 PM
Posted by: UserLoser.       Posted on: Today at 12:22:40pm
I was told it was a Syn flood.  What's difference between DDoS and Syn flood?

Who told you it was a syn flood, btw?

Don't remember, was someone on AIM.
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: PaiD on June 29, 2004, 11:41 PM
any1 know when it will be up again? This is to show you how bad it is. Like most of the w3 channels I know of dont have ops now.
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: Falcon[anti-yL] on June 29, 2004, 11:46 PM
Log on to the client using a Chieftan or Shaman account and designate a bot.
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: Archonist on June 30, 2004, 12:01 AM
Quote from: MoNeY on June 29, 2004, 11:41 PM
any1 know when it will be up again? This is to show you how bad it is. Like most of the w3 channels I know of dont have ops now.

... That was the dumbest thing I've heard in a long time.
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: warz on June 30, 2004, 02:35 AM
nah i hear worse from half the forum regulars most the time.
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: UserLoser. on June 30, 2004, 02:55 AM
Well I read up about Syn floods, so I understand what it is/how it works now ;)
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: Grok on June 30, 2004, 05:12 AM
Quote from: UserLoser. on June 30, 2004, 02:55 AM
Well I read up about Syn floods, so I understand what it is/how it works now ;)


Cell Phone SYN flood:

"Can you hear me now?"
"Yes"
(guy never says "GOOD")

"Can you hear me now?"
"Yes"
(guy never says "GOOD")

"Can you hear me now?"
"Yes"
(guy never says "GOOD")

...
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: iago on June 30, 2004, 07:18 AM
Quote from: Grok on June 30, 2004, 05:12 AM
Quote from: UserLoser. on June 30, 2004, 02:55 AM
Well I read up about Syn floods, so I understand what it is/how it works now ;)


Cell Phone SYN flood:

"Can you hear me now?"
"Yes"
(guy never says "GOOD")

"Can you hear me now?"
"Yes"
(guy never says "GOOD")

"Can you hear me now?"
"Yes"
(guy never says "GOOD")

...

Hahaha, that's a perfect description! *hugs*
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: cefx- on June 30, 2004, 10:52 AM
Humiliating packet kiddies is a pass time of mine.

'Course...I'm now friends with some admins from my NOC.

But hey.

Favourite packet kiddy quote:
"I get NOCs fired all the time!"
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: Newby on June 30, 2004, 01:18 PM
Quote from: UserLoser. on June 30, 2004, 02:55 AM
Well I read up about Syn floods, so I understand what it is/how it works now ;)
Here's how my firewall describes syn floods:

QuoteSYN Flood - This attack involves sending connection requests to a server, but never fully completing the connections. This will cause some computers to get into a "stuck state" where they cannot accept connections from legitimate users. ("SYN" is short for "SYNchronize"; this is the first step in opening an Internet connection).
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: Archonist on June 30, 2004, 02:33 PM
Well, this whole thing was stupid anyway. I did it for one night and just realized that botnets are such a waste of time.. I want to get better with computers, and a botnet and packeting isn't going to help that. I guess it's good I tried it once though, it's always good to have tried everything. So sorry about the damage I caused if I caused any, and I'm done with botnets.

Thanks, Archon.
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: Sadlittleman on June 30, 2004, 04:51 PM
Quote from: Bsd on June 29, 2004, 12:42 PM
I think people with nicknames of animated disney charcters are childish and immature... iago was a fucking annoying, loudmouth, parrot.. You're just an annoying loudmouth ;)

What? I thought iago came from "Othello."

I agree with iago. Some people just lack maturity.  :(
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: iago on June 30, 2004, 05:00 PM
Quote from: Sadlittleman on June 30, 2004, 04:51 PM
What? I thought iago came from "Othello."

It does, you sad little man.  See "iago's forum"
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: hismajesty on June 30, 2004, 05:04 PM
Quote from: Bsd on June 29, 2004, 12:26 PM
Sure! Blame the resident packetmonkey... Isn't it ALWAYS Bsd?

Yes, it's always the childish forum moron that everyone dislikes. You're a prime example of why parents should kill their kids.

Archon: I just lost _all_ respect I _ever_ had for you. Good job stooping to the level of BSD.
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: Bsd on June 30, 2004, 08:41 PM
Oh shut up you lame fucks....  Do you think that having the respect of some lame internet fag like hismajesty is going to change anything?  Who do you think you are?  You're just another lame fuck trying to pass yourself as better then you really are.... Fact of the matter is, you're nothing... Having you're respect doesn't mean jack shit to anyone on the internet you lamer.  You all may refer to me as a "packet kiddie", or whatever the fuck you want.. Fact of the matter is everyone knows my name, and everyone knows what I do.. Who the fuck has ever heard of half of you lame faggots?  No one, that's right.. Why? You contribute nothing to anyone and fact of the matter is *AGAIN*: You're a nothing. So stop talking like your opinion means shit, because it doesn't.
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: hismajesty on June 30, 2004, 09:03 PM
Quote from: Bsd on June 30, 2004, 08:41 PM
Oh shut up you lame fucks....  Do you think that having the respect of some lame internet fag like hismajesty is going to change anything?  Who do you think you are?  You're just another lame fuck trying to pass yourself as better then you really are.... Fact of the matter is, you're nothing... Having you're respect doesn't mean jack shit to anyone on the internet you lamer.  You all may refer to me as a "packet kiddie", or whatever the fuck you want.. Fact of the matter is everyone knows my name, and everyone knows what I do.. Who the fuck has ever heard of half of you lame faggots?  No one, that's right.. Why? You contribute nothing to anyone and fact of the matter is *AGAIN*: You're a nothing. So stop talking like your opinion means shit, because it doesn't.

Please tell me what you contribute. A bunch of downtime and lame threats such as "I'm going to packet you." Sure, everyone knows your name, but most people don't think good things of it. Your entire post was a flame, but you're so cool nobody will ever think that you're a lamer.  ::)

I don't care if you're a lame faggot, but that doesn't mean you have to turn decent people (Archon) into one as well.
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: MyndFyre on June 30, 2004, 09:24 PM
Quote from: Bsd on June 30, 2004, 08:41 PM
Fact of the matter is everyone knows my name, and everyone knows what I do.

The only reason everyone knows your name is because BSD was an operating system long before MS-DOS.
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: warz on July 01, 2004, 12:45 AM
Quote from: Bsd on June 30, 2004, 08:41 PM
Oh shut up you lame fucks....  Do you think that having the respect of some lame internet fag like hismajesty is going to change anything?  Who do you think you are?  You're just another lame fuck trying to pass yourself as better then you really are.... Fact of the matter is, you're nothing... Having you're respect doesn't mean jack shit to anyone on the internet you lamer.  ... Who the fuck has ever heard of half of you lame faggots?  No one, that's right.. Why? You contribute nothing to anyone and fact of the matter is *AGAIN*: You're a nothing. So stop talking like your opinion means shit, because it doesn't.

I fully agree. Not that I don't like people on here, but I think people saying stupid shit like what hismajesty said is really pointless. In the long run, nobody cares about you, me, whats being done here. There's things you can't change, and things you can have the ability to change. You just have to learn to tell the difference between the two.
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: Falcon[anti-yL] on July 01, 2004, 01:04 AM
What Bsd did was pointless.
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: effect on July 01, 2004, 06:34 AM
Quote from: Bsd on June 30, 2004, 08:41 PM
Oh shut up you lame fucks....  Do you think that having the respect of some lame internet fag like hismajesty is going to change anything?  Who do you think you are?  You're just another lame fuck trying to pass yourself as better then you really are.... Fact of the matter is, you're nothing... Having you're respect doesn't mean jack shit to anyone on the internet you lamer.  You all may refer to me as a "packet kiddie", or whatever the fuck you want.. Fact of the matter is everyone knows my name, and everyone knows what I do.. Who the fuck has ever heard of half of you lame faggots?  No one, that's right.. Why? You contribute nothing to anyone and fact of the matter is *AGAIN*: You're a nothing. So stop talking like your opinion means shit, because it doesn't.


hahaha


he's right your all a bunch of cocksucker's

#1 Cocksucker , Hismajesty (Get a Life)
#2 Cocksucker , Falcon (Moron)
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: hismajesty on July 01, 2004, 07:07 AM
Quote from: Falcon[anti-yL] on July 01, 2004, 01:04 AM
What Bsd did was pointless.

Bsd, didn't actually packet the server. He just let somebody else use his botnet as an educational endeavor.

tks: so?

Hrm, anyway, Bsd and I had our first real conversation without flaming each other last night! ;)
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: Bsd on July 01, 2004, 06:17 PM
Yeah; I'm not such a bad guy... I just like to dos a lot :P
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: Stealth on July 01, 2004, 07:53 PM
My website was just hit, did you have anything to do with that as well?

Edit: Or ArchonDS?
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: Newby on July 01, 2004, 07:56 PM
Quote from: Stealth on July 01, 2004, 07:53 PM
My website was just hit

I didn't notice anything at all.
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: Stealth on July 01, 2004, 08:02 PM
It was extremely slow (3/4 ping timeouts) for about 5 minutes. I'm going to write it off as a server problem and continue living my life.  :)
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: Warrior on July 01, 2004, 09:35 PM
RWAR. effect, You have now shown once again how a total and complete ass you can be on these forums. While Falcon may not own me  ::) . He still sure as hell owns you. Trust .... well he owns all of us but shh. I like to think im still better than him deep down somewhere. Seriously you  talk about people 10x better than you are or will ever become. My cows all Moo very mad Moos to you in Harmony.. Mooo*Fuck you* Moooo
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: Bsd on July 01, 2004, 11:06 PM
Dude, I own everyone.. So that's a moot point :P
Questions, comments, concerns, or hatemail can be directed
to bsd at:

aim : sckmydckasaurus

[email protected] = Msn
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: warz on July 01, 2004, 11:17 PM
Quote from: hismajesty[yL] on July 01, 2004, 07:07 AM
tks: so?

So, when you go on little rants like those you just end up wasting time. If somebody reallys wants to do something destructive, it's only because he can't wait to get reactions from people like you. It's better to ignore it, and chances are it won't happen again.

I mean, c'mon, how fun is it to packet something, and then not hear any bitching about how much you pissed them off? none!
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: Tuberload on July 02, 2004, 12:49 AM
I think it's stupid either way...
Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: effect on July 02, 2004, 03:43 AM
Quote from: LW-Warrior on July 01, 2004, 09:35 PM
RWAR. effect, You have now shown once again how a total and complete ass you can be on these forums. While Falcon may not own me  ::) . He still sure as hell owns you. Trust .... well he owns all of us but shh. I like to think im still better than him deep down somewhere. Seriously you  talk about people 10x better than you are or will ever become. My cows all Moo very mad Moos to you in Harmony.. Mooo*Fuck you* Moooo

You sir are a complete and total tool.  Yes a Bunch of lame fucks on the internet such  as Falcon and Trust compeletly own me , both of which have never seen the light of day ,  or will ever see a computer related job. Dont worry there will always be a place for you 2 fuck faces cleaning my toilet.   ;)

Say what u want bitches , i own you alll

Title: Re:Hrm, What's up with vl.com getting dosed?
Post by: MyndFyre on July 02, 2004, 10:21 AM
Wasn't there a rule about 13-year-olds fighting somewhere?

(effect: I know you're not 13.  But you're acting like it).