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Title: Ronald Reagan
Post by: jigsaw on June 11, 2004, 09:36 PM
God bless Ronald Reagan

Moderator edit: Every first post here is supposed to be funny. Perhaps there'll be a monument in memory of him, perhaps something like this:

(http://www.bloggerheads.com/images/thatcherstatue2.jpg)

And perhaps an inscription?

QuoteThe truth is straightforward: Virtually every significant problem facing the American people today can be traced back to the policies and people that came from the Reagan administration. It is a laundry list of ills, woes and disasters that has all of us, once again, staring apocalypse in the eye.
Title: Re:Ronald Reagan
Post by: GoSuGaMING on June 11, 2004, 09:41 PM
he was on 12 differnt channels today
Title: Re:Ronald Reagan
Post by: jigsaw on June 11, 2004, 09:58 PM
...as he should be.
Title: Re:Ronald Reagan
Post by: GoSuGaMING on June 11, 2004, 10:02 PM
Quote from: jigsaw on June 11, 2004, 09:58 PM
...as he should be.

how so? do you really care if he lives or dies? people die every day how is he any more special than a little girl that got raped and put in a black trashbag then thrown into a river...

at least thats how i see it...
Title: Re:Ronald Reagan
Post by: Grok on June 11, 2004, 10:20 PM
Quote from: GoSuGaMING on June 11, 2004, 10:02 PM
Quote from: jigsaw on June 11, 2004, 09:58 PM
...as he should be.

how so? do you really care if he lives or dies? people die every day how is he any more special than a little girl that got raped and put in a black trashbag then thrown into a river...

at least thats how i see it...

It is far better to have people think you're an idiot, than for you to open your mouth and prove it.

If you have no idea why Ronald Reagan is mourned by so much of the world, just be respectfully silent.  The position of President of the United States is one of leadership, a position he willingly sought and executed with the greatest of competence.  His love of freedom and belief in America gave him the conviction and drive to fight the USSR peacefully, through econmic means.  That policy freed much of the world that had otherwise not been.  While for decades people paid lip service to peace and disarmament, he sought both through peaceful bankruptcy, ending the stalemate.

Had he never been President, he was still a great man to his family, friends, and those he served as Governor of California.  An average man should aspire to be one tenth his greatness.  He put his convictions in order and adhered to them, of God, Country, and Family.
Title: Re:Ronald Reagan
Post by: jigsaw on June 11, 2004, 10:26 PM
Grok, I couldn't have said it better. Thank you.
Title: Re:Ronald Reagan
Post by: Denial on June 11, 2004, 11:30 PM
How did this get on the fun forum? wouldnt it be better in general?
Title: Re:Ronald Reagan
Post by: jigsaw on June 12, 2004, 12:37 AM
this is under general.... look at the path... if you're referring to general computer... this has nothing to do with computer... I posted it her for fun.. which to me relates to fun forum. plus I can do whatever the hell i wish.
Title: Re:Ronald Reagan
Post by: Denial on June 12, 2004, 12:52 AM
no you can't as of this point your privileges are taken now go to your room
Title: Re:Ronald Reagan
Post by: muert0 on June 12, 2004, 12:55 AM
Now that made it funny.
Title: Re:Ronald Reagan
Post by: iago on June 12, 2004, 03:39 AM
Quote from: Grok on June 11, 2004, 10:20 PM
It is far better to have people think you're an idiot, than for you to open your mouth and prove it.

prove it should be remove all doubt :)
Title: Re:Ronald Reagan
Post by: j0k3r on June 12, 2004, 06:20 AM
Quote from: Grok on June 11, 2004, 10:20 PM
If you have no idea why Ronald Reagan is mourned by so much of the world, just be respectfully silent.  
Gosu, don't be respectfully quiet if you are ignorant. Go read about it, maybe watch the news, and please(can't believe I'm saying this), go research before you say something stupid. I had the TV running in the background for about half an hour and I picked up that he was well respected, and did some great things. The people who are paying homage are doing so because they might have been alive when he was president, and appreciate all that he did.
Title: Re:Ronald Reagan
Post by: Hazard on June 12, 2004, 07:19 AM
Quote from: Grok on June 11, 2004, 10:20 PM

It is far better to have people think you're an idiot, than for you to open your mouth and prove it.

If you have no idea why Ronald Reagan is mourned by so much of the world, just be respectfully silent.  The position of President of the United States is one of leadership, a position he willingly sought and executed with the greatest of competence.  His love of freedom and belief in America gave him the conviction and drive to fight the USSR peacefully, through econmic means.  That policy freed much of the world that had otherwise not been.  While for decades people paid lip service to peace and disarmament, he sought both through peaceful bankruptcy, ending the stalemate.

Had he never been President, he was still a great man to his family, friends, and those he served as Governor of California.  An average man should aspire to be one tenth his greatness.  He put his convictions in order and adhered to them, of God, Country, and Family.

Here here. Ronald Reagan was a good, honest man who did so much for this country that many people don't even understand. He was a true American President. In memory of Reagan.
Title: Re:Ronald Reagan
Post by: GoSuGaMING on June 12, 2004, 08:33 AM
Quote from: Hazard on June 12, 2004, 07:19 AM
Quote from: Grok on June 11, 2004, 10:20 PM

It is far better to have people think you're an idiot, than for you to open your mouth and prove it.

If you have no idea why Ronald Reagan is mourned by so much of the world, just be respectfully silent.  The position of President of the United States is one of leadership, a position he willingly sought and executed with the greatest of competence.  His love of freedom and belief in America gave him the conviction and drive to fight the USSR peacefully, through econmic means.  That policy freed much of the world that had otherwise not been.  While for decades people paid lip service to peace and disarmament, he sought both through peaceful bankruptcy, ending the stalemate.

Had he never been President, he was still a great man to his family, friends, and those he served as Governor of California.  An average man should aspire to be one tenth his greatness.  He put his convictions in order and adhered to them, of God, Country, and Family.

Here here. Ronald Reagan was a good, honest man who did so much for this country that many people don't even understand. He was a true American President. In memory of Reagan.


hmm i gotta study up on my history i guess ;/
Title: Re:Ronald Reagan
Post by: Hazard on June 12, 2004, 08:40 AM
Obviously.
Title: Re:Ronald Reagan
Post by: hismajesty on June 12, 2004, 10:28 AM
I wasn't alive until the second Reagan administration, although I was jsut a little kid. You don't have to be one from that time period to understand what he accomplished as president. GoSu, perhaps you're right, why should anybody care when somebody dies. Heh, and since we don't care why should we have funerals, graveyards? The whole point of burying the dead is out of respect, yet you think people don't care when the average man dies?

by the way, I think that picture is of bad taste.
Title: Re:Ronald Reagan
Post by: Hitmen on June 12, 2004, 10:30 AM
Quote from: hismajesty[yL] on June 12, 2004, 10:28 AM
why should we have funerals, graveyards?
On that subject, I think graveyards are one of the biggest wastes of land, second only to golf courses.
Title: Re:Ronald Reagan
Post by: hismajesty on June 12, 2004, 10:32 AM
We should pile the bodies in your brothers room. :P
Title: Re:Ronald Reagan
Post by: Hitmen on June 12, 2004, 10:38 AM
Quote from: hismajesty[yL] on June 12, 2004, 10:32 AM
We should pile the bodies in your brothers room. :P
Nah, burn 'em. I've specifically told people I want to be cremated so I don't waste a plot of land.
Title: Re:Ronald Reagan
Post by: Hazard on June 12, 2004, 11:29 AM
Quote from: Hitmen on June 12, 2004, 10:30 AM
Quote from: hismajesty[yL] on June 12, 2004, 10:28 AM
why should we have funerals, graveyards?
On that subject, I think graveyards are one of the biggest wastes of land, second only to golf courses.

You just say that because you suck at golf.
Title: Re:Ronald Reagan
Post by: Hitmen on June 12, 2004, 11:34 AM
Quote from: Hazard on June 12, 2004, 11:29 AM
Quote from: Hitmen on June 12, 2004, 10:30 AM
Quote from: hismajesty[yL] on June 12, 2004, 10:28 AM
why should we have funerals, graveyards?
On that subject, I think graveyards are one of the biggest wastes of land, second only to golf courses.

You just say that because you suck at golf.
No, I've never played golf, nor do I plan to. I simply think wasting acres and acres of land on a game for a vast minority of people seems a little greedy.
Title: Re:Ronald Reagan
Post by: Adron on June 12, 2004, 11:48 AM
Quote from: Hitmen on June 12, 2004, 11:34 AM
No, I've never played golf, nor do I plan to. I simply think wasting acres and acres of land on a game for a vast minority of people seems a little greedy.

As long as land is available, it doesn't seem like a bad thing to me. If the land is more needed for something else, it can be used for that. Until then, people might as well play golf on it as anything else.
Title: Re:Ronald Reagan
Post by: iago on June 12, 2004, 12:00 PM
Quote from: Grok on June 11, 2004, 10:20 PM
If you have no idea why Ronald Reagan is mourned by so much of the world, just be respectfully silent.  

Honestly, that's the path I'm taking.  I honestly know nothing about him, but I'm sure he did good stuff :/
Title: Re:Ronald Reagan
Post by: jigsaw on June 12, 2004, 12:39 PM
adron, show some respect to me - I dont fuck with your posts... dont fuck with mine please.
Title: Re:Ronald Reagan
Post by: Adron on June 12, 2004, 12:51 PM
Quote from: jigsaw on June 12, 2004, 12:39 PM
adron, show some respect to me - I dont fuck with your posts... dont fuck with mine please.

I don't dump off-topic posts in forums you moderate either. If you dump off-topic posts here, there are two possibilities: Fix them or delete them.

You can keep doing whatever the hell you wish with posts in forums you moderate, I'll do whatever the hell I wish with posts in forums I moderate. In general, I'll wish the topics to follow the rules for the forum.
Title: Re:Ronald Reagan
Post by: Hazard on June 12, 2004, 01:29 PM
Quote from: Hitmen on June 12, 2004, 11:34 AM
Quote from: Hazard on June 12, 2004, 11:29 AM
Quote from: Hitmen on June 12, 2004, 10:30 AM
Quote from: hismajesty[yL] on June 12, 2004, 10:28 AM
why should we have funerals, graveyards?
On that subject, I think graveyards are one of the biggest wastes of land, second only to golf courses.

You just say that because you suck at golf.
No, I've never played golf, nor do I plan to. I simply think wasting acres and acres of land on a game for a vast minority of people seems a little greedy.

Well that would be like me saying, if you skateboard, that I think skateparks are a waste of space. Or if you play football, that football fields are waste of space.
Title: Re:Ronald Reagan
Post by: Hitmen on June 12, 2004, 01:35 PM
Quote from: Hazard on June 12, 2004, 01:29 PM
Quote from: Hitmen on June 12, 2004, 11:34 AM
Quote from: Hazard on June 12, 2004, 11:29 AM
Quote from: Hitmen on June 12, 2004, 10:30 AM
Quote from: hismajesty[yL] on June 12, 2004, 10:28 AM
why should we have funerals, graveyards?
On that subject, I think graveyards are one of the biggest wastes of land, second only to golf courses.

You just say that because you suck at golf.
No, I've never played golf, nor do I plan to. I simply think wasting acres and acres of land on a game for a vast minority of people seems a little greedy.

Well that would be like me saying, if you skateboard, that I think skateparks are a waste of space. Or if you play football, that football fields are waste of space.
Yes, but the size of golf courses is exponentially larger than any of those.
Title: Re:Ronald Reagan
Post by: hismajesty on June 12, 2004, 02:50 PM
What do you propose we replace the golf courses with?
Title: Re:Ronald Reagan
Post by: Hazard on June 12, 2004, 02:53 PM
Its the size that is neccessary for play. I mean sure we could only shoot on one hole and do it over and over, but then why couldn't skaters just jump one ramp over and over, and why cant football teams just run up a 10 yard stretch over and over?
Title: Re:Ronald Reagan
Post by: j0k3r on June 12, 2004, 02:57 PM
I fail to see how it's a waste of space, considering there is a company making money off of it.
Title: Re:Ronald Reagan
Post by: jigsaw on June 12, 2004, 04:25 PM
adron, it's just common respect bud.
Title: Re:Ronald Reagan
Post by: Adron on June 12, 2004, 05:14 PM
Quote from: jigsaw on June 12, 2004, 04:25 PM
adron, it's just common respect bud.

Common respect on a forum is: Not making off-topic threads, especially not with the additional comment of "I can do whatever the hell i wish".
Title: Re:Ronald Reagan
Post by: hismajesty on June 12, 2004, 05:42 PM
The golf thing has a humor side so I'm guessing this follows the rules even if the picture is removed?
Title: Re:Ronald Reagan
Post by: Hazard on June 12, 2004, 07:19 PM
Well, Adron, you might consider extending jigsaw a little latitude I mean, after all, he is a [vL] member.
Title: Re:Ronald Reagan
Post by: iago on June 12, 2004, 08:00 PM
Quote from: Hazard on June 12, 2004, 07:19 PM
Well, Adron, you might consider extending jigsaw a little latitude I mean, after all, he is a [vL] member.

I don't see how that changes anything.  vL are people too, you know.  We can do stupid things, or make mistakes, or whatever.  
Title: Re:Ronald Reagan
Post by: hismajesty on June 12, 2004, 08:04 PM
Well, since this topic has more than one humerous element (although small) perhaps the distasteful picture can now be removed?
Title: Re:Ronald Reagan
Post by: Hazard on June 12, 2004, 08:29 PM
Quote from: iago on June 12, 2004, 08:00 PM
Quote from: Hazard on June 12, 2004, 07:19 PM
Well, Adron, you might consider extending jigsaw a little latitude I mean, after all, he is a [vL] member.

I don't see how that changes anything.  vL are people too, you know.  We can do stupid things, or make mistakes, or whatever.  

Yea of course. I'm just saying how vL members can get away with more than we can, and that there is a double standard, to paraphrase your rules.
Title: Re:Ronald Reagan
Post by: jigsaw on June 12, 2004, 09:05 PM
I tend to cover all vL's backs - no matter what, uphold their thoughts and support in anything. its called brotherhood.
Title: Re:Ronald Reagan
Post by: iago on June 13, 2004, 12:21 AM
Quote from: jigsaw on June 12, 2004, 09:05 PM
I tend to cover all vL's backs - no matter what, uphold their thoughts and support in anything. its called brotherhood.

If anybody in the clan needs help, and it's something I can do, I'll generally help them.  If somebody outside the clan needs help, I'll make as much effort to help them.  For the most part, anyway, I make exceptions for certain people both ways (ie, some people I help more willingly for whatever reason, and some people I try not to help because they annoy me).  It's called being nice. :)
Title: Re:Ronald Reagan
Post by: Adron on June 13, 2004, 04:25 AM
Quote from: hismajesty[yL] on June 12, 2004, 05:42 PM
The golf thing has a humor side so I'm guessing this follows the rules even if the picture is removed?

I suppose. Maybe. Topics here are supposed to be funny always. This generally makes it a requirement that the first post is funny. Posting a long string of arguments, and then following up with a small funny post isn't acceptable. On the other hand, posting a small funny post first, that post sparking a discussion with a long string of arguments is ok.

To make it clear: If you post a topic here with the subject of "Ronald Reagan", the only way I can see of that being on-topic for this forum is if the post makes fun of Ronald Reagan, or something he did.

If I had seen this topic before it ended up getting a lot of replies, and someone else's moderating, it would've simply gone in the trash can.

What I really don't like is defending posting off-topic things with the comment "I can do whatever the hell i wish". That's about as disrespectful to a moderator as you can get.


Quote from: jigsaw on June 12, 2004, 09:05 PM
I tend to cover all vL's backs - no matter what, uphold their thoughts and support in anything. its called brotherhood.

vL (http://www.valhallalegends.com/aboutvL.asp) isn't a brotherhood though. ;)



Quote from: Hazard on June 12, 2004, 08:29 PM
Yea of course. I'm just saying how vL members can get away with more than we can, and that there is a double standard, to paraphrase your rules.

This isn't completely accurate. Some non-members can get away with more than other non-members. They get different biases - some people are believed to be annoying or ignorant. It takes less to get annoyed at them. People who have made sense in the past will get more slack in the future. More of "interpret in the best possible way".

It's natural that those non-members who become members are already in the group of "people who can get away with more".
Title: Re:Ronald Reagan
Post by: Grok on June 14, 2004, 09:31 PM
I don't know why it is in Fun Forum, but if you don't want this topic, move it to my forum (sans disrespectful unfunny picture).
Title: Re:Ronald Reagan
Post by: Adron on June 15, 2004, 11:05 AM
Well, it's off-topic and virtually dead by now..