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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Yoni on June 09, 2004, 08:27 PM

Title: There are fifty states in the United States of America.
Post by: Yoni on June 09, 2004, 08:27 PM
I keep hearing about various figures, usually between 48 and 52 for this number.
Are only Israelis this stupid, or is this just not as common knowledge as I thought it was?

/rant
Title: Re:There are fifty states in the United States of America.
Post by: j0k3r on June 09, 2004, 08:27 PM
I thought it was 51

/me hides his Canadian face
Title: Re:There are fifty states in the United States of America.
Post by: Hazard on June 09, 2004, 08:32 PM
There are 50 and only 50. Previous to WWII there were 48 but then Alaska and Hawaii were admitted to the Union. Puerto Rico, The Virgin Islands, etc. are just American territories.
Title: Re:There are fifty states in the United States of America.
Post by: hismajesty on June 09, 2004, 08:34 PM
QuoteAre only Israelis this stupid

Yes. :P
Title: Re:There are fifty states in the United States of America.
Post by: muert0 on June 09, 2004, 08:44 PM
My ex argued and argued with me saying it was 52. I googled it and showed her and she still said there were 52.
Title: Re:There are fifty states in the United States of America.
Post by: Zorm on June 09, 2004, 08:45 PM
Americans are this stupid too. One of our morning news shows has a segment called "one of our fifty is missing" and they tell stories about all the dumb people who think New Mexico is part of Mexico and not the US.
Title: Re:There are fifty states in the United States of America.
Post by: iago on June 09, 2004, 10:06 PM
I've heard 50, 51, and 52 in different places -- I was never sure which was right, and I also didn't care enough to look it up :)
Title: Re:There are fifty states in the United States of America.
Post by: K on June 09, 2004, 10:11 PM
Well, I couldn't tell you how many Canadian or Mexican provinces there are.  Does that make me stupid?
Title: Re:There are fifty states in the United States of America.
Post by: Hostile on June 09, 2004, 10:15 PM
Mexico has provinces? hehe

31 states and 1 federal district: Aguascalientes, Baja California, Baja California Sur, Campeche, Chiapas, Chihuahua, Coahuila de Zaragoza, Colima, Distrito Federal*, Durango, Guanajuato, Guerrero, Hidalgo, Jalisco, Mexico, Michoacan de Ocampo, Morelos, Nayarit, Nuevo Leon, Oaxaca, Puebla, Queretaro de Arteaga, Quintana Roo, San Luis Potosi, Sinaloa, Sonora, Tabasco, Tamaulipas, Tlaxcala, Veracruz-Llave, Yucatan, Zacatecas.

If its any consolation, Yoni. I have no idea what Israel even has, I know the name of 5 cities and thats it. :P
Title: Re:There are fifty states in the United States of America.
Post by: Mephisto on June 09, 2004, 10:40 PM
No.  The United States of America consists of 46 states and 4 Commonwealths which include Kentucky, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, and Virginia.
Title: Re:There are fifty states in the United States of America.
Post by: Stwong on June 09, 2004, 10:40 PM
Canada has jokingly been called the 51st state before.  I guess they might joke like that about Mexico too.
Title: Re:There are fifty states in the United States of America.
Post by: quasi-modo on June 09, 2004, 10:53 PM
Quote from: Stwong on June 09, 2004, 10:40 PM
Canada has jokingly been called the 51st state before.  I guess they might joke like that about Mexico too.
We have half of the worlds mexicans here already, sure why not just make it a state too, or better yet, just call it southern california and all of present california northern california.
Title: Re:There are fifty states in the United States of America.
Post by: Stwong on June 09, 2004, 10:56 PM
Or make it southern southern cali--
So-So Cal

(No offense to any Mexicans intended...)
Title: Re:There are fifty states in the United States of America.
Post by: muert0 on June 09, 2004, 10:57 PM
Quote from: Mephisto on June 09, 2004, 10:40 PM
No.  The United States of America consists of 46 states and 4 Commonwealths which include Kentucky, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, and Virginia.
http://www.encyclopedia.com/html/U/US1.asp
http://www.50states.com/
http://www.firstgov.gov/Agencies/State_and_Territories.shtml

looks like 50 to me
Title: Re:There are fifty states in the United States of America.
Post by: Yoni on June 10, 2004, 04:04 AM
Quote from: K on June 09, 2004, 10:11 PM
Well, I couldn't tell you how many Canadian or Mexican provinces there are.  Does that make me stupid?
No, I would think that's less common knowledge than the amount of USA states.

Quote from: Hostile on June 09, 2004, 10:15 PM
Mexico has provinces? hehe

31 states and 1 federal district: [...] Tabasco, [...]
:o

Quote from: Hostile on June 09, 2004, 10:15 PM
If its any consolation, Yoni. I have no idea what Israel even has, I know the name of 5 cities and thats it. :P
Israel doesn't have states. 5 cities is more than most people out of Israel know, probably. :)
Title: Re:There are fifty states in the United States of America.
Post by: hismajesty on June 10, 2004, 06:08 AM
Quote from: muert0 on June 09, 2004, 10:57 PMlooks like 50 to me

No he's right. I live in The Commonwealth of Virginia, but it's still considered a state. However, I suppose technically it isn't.
Title: Re:There are fifty states in the United States of America.
Post by: iago on June 10, 2004, 07:10 AM
Canada has 10 provinces, from west to east:
BC, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Ontario, Quebec, Nova Scotia, Newfoundland, Prince Edward Island, New Brunswick

And 3 territories, from west to east
Yukon, North West Territories, Nunavet

Now gogo name the states in order without looking ;)
Title: Re:There are fifty states in the United States of America.
Post by: muert0 on June 10, 2004, 01:26 PM
Why are there 50 stars on the flag then? They've always tauhgt us that there are 50 states not 46 states and 4 commonwealths.

I looked it up commonwealth is just another word for state:
http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=commonwealth (http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=commonwealth)
Title: Re:There are fifty states in the United States of America.
Post by: Arta on June 10, 2004, 05:32 PM
Commonwealths must be states or they wouldn't be granted state's rights. (eg: Puerto Rico?).
Title: Re:There are fifty states in the United States of America.
Post by: muert0 on June 10, 2004, 05:40 PM
http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761562626/Puerto_Rico.html

QuoteSince 1952 Puerto Ricans have debated whether the island should remain a commonwealth, attempt to become the 51st state of the United States, or become an independent nation. Puerto Rico has held a number of referenda on this issue. The vast majority of voters remain closely split between commonwealth status and statehood.
Title: Re:There are fifty states in the United States of America.
Post by: K on June 10, 2004, 06:12 PM
Let's clear things up.
There are indeed, 50 states; the 48 contiguous states, Alaska, and Hawaii.  Then there is  Washington D.C, (the District of Columbia), which is the national capital.  There are also several US territories, which are not states.  They do not have representatives in the US House of Representatives or the US Senate (AFAIK) and do not vote for president or vice president, although they are technically US Citizens.  These territories include Puerto Rico, American Samoa, Guam, and the U.S. Virgin Islands.

Phew.

Edit: Apparently I do not know far enough  ;)
Quote
... a nonvoting resident delegate represents Puerto Rico in the House of Representatives...
Title: Re:There are fifty states in the United States of America.
Post by: hismajesty on June 10, 2004, 06:14 PM
Apparently Peurto Rico is considered part of the US even though they're a territory. I thought being a territory just meant you had protection and stuff by us, US benefits without being part of the US (ie: a state.) However, on my VB.NET package it says "Made in USA (Puerto Rico)"  :-\
Title: Re:There are fifty states in the United States of America.
Post by: Eli_1 on June 10, 2004, 06:30 PM
Quote from: iago on June 10, 2004, 07:10 AM
Now gogo name the states in order without looking ;)

boo! Alphebetical order!

Quote
Fifty nifty United States, from thirteen origional colonies. Shout 'em, scout 'em, tell all about 'em, one-by-one ... in the USA.

Alabama
Alaska
Arizona
Arkansas
California
Colorado
Conneticut
Delaware
Florida
Geogia
Hawaii
Idaho
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisiana
Maine
Maryland
Massachusetts
Michigan
Minisotta
Mississippi
Missouri
Montana
Nebraska
Nevada
New Hampshire
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York
North Carolina
North Dakota
Ohio
Oklahoma
Oregon
Pennsylvania
Rhode Island
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Vermont
Virginia
Washington
West Virginia
Wisconsin
Wyoming

North, South, East, West ... <insert favorite state here> is the best of the fifty nifty United States from thirteen origional colonies, shout 'em, scout 'em, tell all about 'em, one by one ... in the USA!
I forgot some of the words, so I replaced them with '...' :(

My friends and I learned this song - yes it's really a song - in third grade. Good times...  :-[
Title: Re:There are fifty states in the United States of America.
Post by: Hostile on June 10, 2004, 07:24 PM
Since the US has such screwy states I'm giving myself some leniency on West to East... Then again there are 50 compared to 10, so screw iago. :P

Hawaii, Alaska, California, Oregon, Washington, Nevada, Idaho, Utah, Arizona, Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, New Mexico, Texas, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri, Arkansas, Louisiana, Wisconsin, Illinois, Mississippi, Indiana, Kentucky, Tennessee, Michigan, Ohio, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, West Virginia, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Pennsylvania, New York, Maryland, Delaware, New Jersey, Vermont, Connecticut, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Maine.
Title: Re:There are fifty states in the United States of America.
Post by: Yoni on June 10, 2004, 07:46 PM
Quote from: Eli_1 on June 10, 2004, 06:30 PM
My friends and I learned this song - yes it's really a song - in third grade. Good times...  :-[
OMG. I lived in the USA in 5th grade and learned this exact song there. I've known the states in alphabetical order ever since. I can still sing it (though you can't make me).
Title: Re:There are fifty states in the United States of America.
Post by: quasi-modo on June 10, 2004, 08:14 PM
Back to israel, israel has a population of about 5 million just and about 4.5 million people who hate them and they are surrounded by another 300 million people who hate them. Atleast they have a lot of guns.
Title: Re:There are fifty states in the United States of America.
Post by: muert0 on June 10, 2004, 08:29 PM
And the best helicopter fleet in the world.
Title: Re:There are fifty states in the United States of America.
Post by: Hazard on June 10, 2004, 09:02 PM
It's pretty hard to match American air superiority muert0.
Title: Re:There are fifty states in the United States of America.
Post by: Trance on June 10, 2004, 11:55 PM
Quote from: Hazard on June 10, 2004, 09:02 PM
It's pretty hard to match American air superiority muert0.
*Points to China*
Title: Re:There are fifty states in the United States of America.
Post by: Grok on June 11, 2004, 12:00 AM
Quote from: Trance on June 10, 2004, 11:55 PM
Quote from: Hazard on June 10, 2004, 09:02 PM
It's pretty hard to match American air superiority muert0.
*Points to China*

Yes China has good rice.
Title: Re:There are fifty states in the United States of America.
Post by: effect on June 11, 2004, 12:01 AM
*laught's at trance
Title: Re:There are fifty states in the United States of America.
Post by: quasi-modo on June 11, 2004, 12:32 AM
Quote from: Grok on June 11, 2004, 12:00 AM
Quote from: Trance on June 10, 2004, 11:55 PM
Quote from: Hazard on June 10, 2004, 09:02 PM
It's pretty hard to match American air superiority muert0.
*Points to China*

Yes China has good rice.
I personally like the romen noodles (assumeing they are from there) and the pepper steak is delightful.  AC130 specter gun ships rock, a big cargo plane with howitzers and mini guns sticking out the sides.
Title: Re:There are fifty states in the United States of America.
Post by: warz on June 11, 2004, 12:40 AM
50 states. If you or somebody you know lives within the borders of the US and thinks otherwise then they are stupid. I'm sorry.
Title: Re:There are fifty states in the United States of America.
Post by: j0k3r on June 11, 2004, 05:54 AM
Quote from: Grok on June 11, 2004, 12:00 AM
Quote from: Trance on June 10, 2004, 11:55 PM
Quote from: Hazard on June 10, 2004, 09:02 PM
It's pretty hard to match American air superiority muert0.
*Points to China*

Yes China has good rice.
I like when they use their rice in their food, like sushi, and teriyaki.
Title: Re:There are fifty states in the United States of America.
Post by: Hostile on June 11, 2004, 01:24 PM
lol yeah I remember that song now too... same with the calender one...