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Programming => Battle.net Bot Development => Battle.net Bot Development References => Topic started by: Arta on December 17, 2002, 02:51 AM

Title: Heads-up to fledgling bot developers
Post by: Arta on December 17, 2002, 02:51 AM
Battle.net's IP bans recently became rather more serious. Specifically, they are now permanent and effective across an entire gateway, not just a particular server. I strongly recommend that you locate a copy of pvpgn (www.pvpgn.com), bnetd, or if you're really desperate, fsgs - and test using that. Although all of these emulators have gaping inaccuracies and do in fact suck, in many respects, they'll help you to develop your logons and get your basic packets correct without being banned forever. Obviously this doesn't apply if you have a dynamic IP address or access to "10000 working proxies (;))".

Above all, just be careful! Make sure you get things right before you try to connect to Battle.net for real.
Title: Re: Heads-up to fledgling bot developers
Post by: Zakath on December 17, 2002, 07:00 AM
Erm...permanent?
Title: Re: Heads-up to fledgling bot developers
Post by: Skywing on December 17, 2002, 09:05 AM
QuoteErm...permanent?
Yes.  You get permanently banned from all servers on the gateway that you got banned from.  The only way to get it reversed is administrative action.
Title: Re: Heads-up to fledgling bot developers
Post by: Spht on December 17, 2002, 11:27 AM
http://botdev.valhallalegends.com/

Arta should be keeping up-to-date by visiting there!
Title: Re: Heads-up to fledgling bot developers
Post by: warz on December 17, 2002, 01:35 PM
Well, I was infact un banned today after doing 0 attempts at asking a administrator to unban me. Not so perminant?
Title: Re: Heads-up to fledgling bot developers
Post by: Mesiah-Unregister on December 17, 2002, 06:56 PM
dWere you banned in the first place? And I'm sure the IP bans would NOT be permanent, for a simple fu c k  up in they're own software, could result in an ip ban (which I've seen happen a few times myself with bw)

I'm sure you would just stay banned for 12 hours on the entire gateway, permanent bans would be insane.
Title: Re: Heads-up to fledgling bot developers
Post by: Chelsea on December 17, 2002, 09:52 PM
Well it's not too insane, this is twice now i've been banned off USEast for no good reason in the last week, last time i couldn't play for three day's! and i got banned again a few hours ago, what is it now? just a week? this is starting too get dumb i'm not doing anything >.<
Title: Re: Heads-up to fledgling bot developers
Post by: Arta on December 17, 2002, 11:26 PM
Hey, I wouldn't have posted this unless I was sure. It has been confirmed as permanent - Although some people seem to have been unbanned when server software was updated a while ago.

Spht: Due to internet wierdness I am unable to vl.com, and vice-versa. Traceroutes from both ends time out at the last hop. :(
Title: Re: Heads-up to fledgling bot developers
Post by: erase on December 22, 2002, 06:49 AM
I've been permanently banned twice ...so far...Last time I was unbanned on Monday without saying anything. I've been banned again for three days and counting. I'll update you if i get unbanned on Monday again.
(thx for the links arta)
Title: Re: Heads-up to fledgling bot developers
Post by: Arta on December 22, 2002, 12:36 PM
Apparently you now need to be banned a few times before it becomes permanent.
Title: Re: Heads-up to fledgling bot developers
Post by: Mesiah / haiseM on December 22, 2002, 06:32 PM
Hrmm that explains it...

As for me trying to get myself banned, Battle.net servers are no longer as strict on the banning requirements, ive taken notice, constant flooding, will only get you muted... Constant profile updates only disconnect you, and invalid packets, only get you disconnected...

Depending on the server's stability, this may or may not be the case the entire time, but clearly they have lightened up a bit, i spent an hour trying to get ip banned, nothing...
Title: Re: Heads-up to fledgling bot developers
Post by: RhiNo on December 23, 2002, 04:57 AM
perhaps you didnt try hard enough =\ or try flood bot with mass joins/reconnects that should do the trick
Title: Re: Heads-up to fledgling bot developers
Post by: Mesiah / haiseM on December 23, 2002, 10:07 AM
Trust me, i tried that times 30
Title: Re: Heads-up to fledgling bot developers
Post by: Grok on December 23, 2002, 11:22 AM
What is the fascination with rejoining over and over?  Why am I so clueless to how that can be interesting, stimulating, fun, or whatever?  It seems to be a total waste of time.

What the hell am I missing?

Hope this helps.
Grok
Title: Re: Heads-up to fledgling bot developers
Post by: Zakath on December 23, 2002, 01:15 PM
In this case I think Mesiah was merely trying to get the server to not like him...

As a more general idea...who knows...probably just because other people find it irritating.
Title: Re: Heads-up to fledgling bot developers
Post by: Mesiah / haiseM on December 28, 2002, 02:35 PM
QuoteWhat is the fascination with rejoining over and over?  Why am I so clueless to how that can be interesting, stimulating, fun, or whatever?  It seems to be a total waste of time.

Well i think its standard for kids who find out something cool, for them to show it off on everybody else, and if their lives are at a certain level of meaninglessness, then they make a hobby out of it.