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Programming => Battle.net Bot Development => Topic started by: CLaNBaN on February 08, 2004, 06:37 PM

Title: Overall Bot Making
Post by: CLaNBaN on February 08, 2004, 06:37 PM
Hehe i made this Topic to help anyone discuss making there bot and get help i myself am discussing Elite Chat 2.100 Made By Me and The EUPT.... I Need some Suggestions!
Title: Re:Overall Bot Making
Post by: Tuberload on February 08, 2004, 06:43 PM
Well feel free to start the conversation. Tell us what you have so far. Elite Chat sounds like a bot with some supremacy. What are your plans for your bot right now?
Title: Re:Overall Bot Making
Post by: CLaNBaN on February 08, 2004, 06:45 PM
Im adding a aim client,Botnet, some SUPREME cmds for a chat bot and a option to admin a PHP,E107 site thru the bot..

::::Edit::::: Also My self made MP3/Movie player (can play dvds!)
Title: Re:Overall Bot Making
Post by: bRoKeN on February 08, 2004, 06:46 PM
Sounds good, so far.
Title: Re:Overall Bot Making
Post by: o.OV on February 08, 2004, 07:41 PM
In my opinion.. any bot with too many features is doomed.

Simplicity is a nice word..
though I have trouble with it myself.

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Title: Re:Overall Bot Making
Post by: SuB7 on February 08, 2004, 07:47 PM
o.OV IM CLaNBaN my bot is very easy to use and newb friendly like Stealthbot(sry stealth) but myn has more UseFull functions
Title: Re:Overall Bot Making
Post by: Spht on February 08, 2004, 08:06 PM
Quote from: SuB7 on February 08, 2004, 07:47 PM
o.OV IM CLaNBaN my bot is very easy to use and newb friendly like Stealthbot(sry stealth) but myn has more UseFull functions

Good bots are designed to be "newbie friendly."
Title: Re:Overall Bot Making
Post by: Dark-Feanor on February 08, 2004, 09:16 PM
QuoteSUPREME cmds
That made me laugh.
Title: Re:Overall Bot Making
Post by: MyndFyre on February 08, 2004, 09:17 PM
Quote from: DaRk-FeAnOr on February 08, 2004, 09:16 PM
QuoteSUPREME cmds
That made me laugh.
MY SUP83M3 B0T PWNS U!!!
Title: Re:Overall Bot Making
Post by: Newby on February 08, 2004, 09:24 PM
Quote from: Myndfyre on February 08, 2004, 09:17 PM
Quote from: DaRk-FeAnOr on February 08, 2004, 09:16 PM
QuoteSUPREME cmds
That made me laugh.
MY SUP83M3 B0T PWNS U!!!

PH33R!!!!

I want to see this AIM Client, the PHP/e107 management, and this "self made mp3 player" :)
Title: Re:Overall Bot Making
Post by: Hamtaro on February 08, 2004, 11:06 PM
ok.. im just now learning c++ but im wondering how chewbacca bot works.. bcuz i dont think it uses bnls right?  when stealths were down and ppl blamed bnls my chewwy worked just fine..  i dont really know where to put this so its going here =P
Title: Re:Overall Bot Making
Post by: Newby on February 08, 2004, 11:27 PM
I believe Chewbacca bot is hashes.

And what's learning C++ got to do with chewbacca bot? :P
Title: Re:Overall Bot Making
Post by: Hamtaro on February 08, 2004, 11:38 PM
well i was trying to say im new to programming languages ^^ and i want to use whatever chewwy uses :)
Title: Re:Overall Bot Making
Post by: Stealth on February 08, 2004, 11:42 PM
Quote from: SuB7 on February 08, 2004, 07:47 PM
o.OV IM CLaNBaN my bot is very easy to use and newb friendly like Stealthbot(sry stealth) but myn has more UseFull functions

In my view, the "best" bot would be both userfriendly for those users who only need basic features and powerful for those who wish to delve deeper into its functionality.
Title: Re:Overall Bot Making
Post by: Newby on February 08, 2004, 11:48 PM
Quote from: Stealth on February 08, 2004, 11:42 PM
Quote from: SuB7 on February 08, 2004, 07:47 PM
o.OV IM CLaNBaN my bot is very easy to use and newb friendly like Stealthbot(sry stealth) but myn has more UseFull functions

In my view, the "best" bot would be both userfriendly for those users who only need basic features and powerful for those who wish to delve deeper into its functionality.

Hence, scripting was invented? :)
Title: Re:Overall Bot Making
Post by: Tuberload on February 09, 2004, 02:01 AM
Quote from: Newby on February 08, 2004, 11:48 PM
Quote from: Stealth on February 08, 2004, 11:42 PM
Quote from: SuB7 on February 08, 2004, 07:47 PM
o.OV IM CLaNBaN my bot is very easy to use and newb friendly like Stealthbot(sry stealth) but myn has more UseFull functions

In my view, the "best" bot would be both userfriendly for those users who only need basic features and powerful for those who wish to delve deeper into its functionality.

Hence, scripting was invented? :)

Yes scripting is a nice feature, but what you really got to do is have a beginner and an advanced configuration setup. Both do the same thing of course; the only difference is how difficult it was to get it done. ;D That way you have the people that just want to chat covered, and the people who like to figure things out taken care of as well.
Title: Re:Overall Bot Making
Post by: bRoKeN on February 09, 2004, 09:54 PM
Quote from: Stealth on February 08, 2004, 11:42 PM
Quote from: SuB7 on February 08, 2004, 07:47 PM
o.OV IM CLaNBaN my bot is very easy to use and newb friendly like Stealthbot(sry stealth) but myn has more UseFull functions

In my view, the "best" bot would be both userfriendly for those users who only need basic features and powerful for those who wish to delve deeper into its functionality.

Agreed. . .
Title: Re:Overall Bot Making
Post by: Liquid on February 10, 2004, 04:01 AM
Chewy is hash based... only loads war2 though  :-\
Title: Re:Overall Bot Making
Post by: Skywing on February 10, 2004, 11:53 AM
Quote from: Newby on February 08, 2004, 11:48 PM
Quote from: Stealth on February 08, 2004, 11:42 PM
Quote from: SuB7 on February 08, 2004, 07:47 PM
o.OV IM CLaNBaN my bot is very easy to use and newb friendly like Stealthbot(sry stealth) but myn has more UseFull functions

In my view, the "best" bot would be both userfriendly for those users who only need basic features and powerful for those who wish to delve deeper into its functionality.

Hence, scripting was invented? :)
I'd prefer something like extension dlls that lets you use your language of choice instead of being limited to a specific (and possibly unfamiliar) scripting language.
Title: Re:Overall Bot Making
Post by: Kp on February 10, 2004, 12:17 PM
Quote from: Skywing on February 10, 2004, 11:53 AMI'd prefer something like extension dlls that lets you use your language of choice instead of being limited to a specific (and possibly unfamiliar) scripting language.

Generally, I agree.  However, I see two major attractive points for scripting:

* doesn't require a compiler installed (and can potentially produce much more compact scripts than a plugin to do the same thing)
* much harder to crash the host process.  One errant pointer dereference in a C DLL and a heap corruption (or access violation) might occur.  Access violations can be caught, but heap corruptions can be a mess.  A well written scripting host will be quite hard to crash, but IMO it'd be very difficult to write an extension-dll handler that provides near complete safety against bad extensions crashing everything.
Title: Re:Overall Bot Making
Post by: Imperceptus on February 10, 2004, 01:11 PM
Bad side to using a scripting language, will develope another volley of scripting noobs.  With 1 in ever 20 or so having the faintest idea of whats going on.
Title: Re:Overall Bot Making
Post by: Hamtaro on February 10, 2004, 01:27 PM
Quote from: Liquid[BH] on February 10, 2004, 04:01 AM
Chewy is hash based... only loads war2 though  :-\

does that mean you cant be hash based and support other games?
Title: Re:Overall Bot Making
Post by: Zakath on February 10, 2004, 05:32 PM
Not at all. ZakBot is, and has been since it was created, purely dependent on local hashing. It supports SC, BW, War2, D2, and D2XP, including minimal support for dealing with the D2 MCP server.
Title: Re:Overall Bot Making
Post by: Hamtaro on February 12, 2004, 04:05 PM
why doesnt it support war3?
Title: Re:Overall Bot Making
Post by: UserLoser. on February 12, 2004, 04:22 PM
Quote from: Hamtaro on February 12, 2004, 04:05 PM
why doesnt it support war3?

The hashing required for Warcraft III is currently different than all other products
Title: Re:Overall Bot Making
Post by: Forged on February 20, 2004, 10:31 PM
Quote from: Newby on February 08, 2004, 09:24 PM
Quote from: Myndfyre on February 08, 2004, 09:17 PM
Quote from: DaRk-FeAnOr on February 08, 2004, 09:16 PM
QuoteSUPREME cmds
That made me laugh.
MY SUP83M3 B0T PWNS U!!!

PH33R!!!!

I want to see this AIM Client, the PHP/e107 management, and this "self made mp3 player" :)

You can get the aim client and mp3 player off of http://pscode.com/ as for the e107 management I am confused as to what he meant.
Title: Re:Overall Bot Making
Post by: Spht on February 20, 2004, 11:50 PM
Quote from: Panda on February 20, 2004, 09:48 PM
Quote from: Hamtaro on February 12, 2004, 04:05 PM
why doesnt it support war3?

That's soon to come. . .

I think he was asking about Zakath's bot...
Title: Re:Overall Bot Making
Post by: bRoKeN on February 21, 2004, 07:34 PM
oh?