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Title: Roman counting question
Post by: Grok on December 22, 2003, 11:21 AM
What comes after MMMCMXCIX?
Title: Re:Roman counting question
Post by: mejal on December 22, 2003, 12:14 PM
How about MMMM?
Title: Re:Roman counting question
Post by: Adron on December 22, 2003, 12:27 PM
or M|))?
Title: Re:Roman counting question
Post by: Spht on December 22, 2003, 12:40 PM
Quote from: Grok on December 22, 2003, 11:21 AM
What comes after MMMCMXCIX?

That would only be 4000, so MMMM. After it gets to 5000, it's a V with a line on top.
Title: Re:Roman counting question
Post by: Kp on December 22, 2003, 12:55 PM
Quote from: Spht on December 22, 2003, 12:40 PM
Quote from: Grok on December 22, 2003, 11:21 AM
What comes after MMMCMXCIX?
That would only be 4000, so MMMM. After it gets to 5000, it's a V with a line on top.

Isn't it supposed to be M followed by the symbol for 5000 (thus denoting 1000 less than 5000)?
Title: Re:Roman counting question
Post by: Spht on December 22, 2003, 12:59 PM
Quote from: Kp on December 22, 2003, 12:55 PM
Quote from: Spht on December 22, 2003, 12:40 PM
Quote from: Grok on December 22, 2003, 11:21 AM
What comes after MMMCMXCIX?
That would only be 4000, so MMMM. After it gets to 5000, it's a V with a line on top.

Isn't it supposed to be M followed by the symbol for 5000 (thus denoting 1000 less than 5000)?

Like:
 _
MV
I'm not totally sure if that's how I'd be written. Maybe.

Edit: You're right. I thought that rule only applied to small numbers.
Title: Re:Roman counting question
Post by: Spht on December 22, 2003, 01:14 PM
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MMMMCDXVDCCCLX = 4415860 = 'Cat'
I'd show you what 'Grok' is, but that'd be about 3000 characters unless someone knows the roman characters for numbers higher than 1,000,000 (if they exist).
Title: Re:Roman counting question
Post by: Yoni on December 22, 2003, 02:06 PM
QuoteFor large numbers, the Romans placed a partial frame around numbers (open at the bottom), which indicated that the framed number was to be multiplied by 100,000

...

In more recent practice, the strokes were sometimes written only on the sides, e.g., |X|

...

The Romans sometimes used multiple parentheses to denote nested multiplications by 10, so (I) for 1,000, ((I)) for 10,000, (((I))) for 100,000, etc.

All this and more:
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/RomanNumerals.html
Title: Re:Roman counting question
Post by: hismajesty on December 23, 2003, 08:05 AM
Quote from: Spht on December 22, 2003, 01:14 PM
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MMMMCDXVDCCCLX = 4415860 = 'Cat'
I'd show you what 'Grok' is, but that'd be about 3000 characters unless someone knows the roman characters for numbers higher than 1,000,000 (if they exist).

www.valhallalegends.com/spht/Grok.html
Title: Re:Roman counting question
Post by: Grok on December 23, 2003, 09:15 AM
Quote from: Spht on December 22, 2003, 01:14 PM
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MMMMCDXVDCCCLX = 4415860 = 'Cat'
I'd show you what 'Grok' is, but that'd be about 3000 characters unless someone knows the roman characters for numbers higher than 1,000,000 (if they exist).

I'm pretty sure the Romans would have represented Grok with characters, and not in 8-bit ASCII.
Title: Re:Roman counting question
Post by: Spht on December 23, 2003, 11:38 AM
Quote from: Grok on December 23, 2003, 09:15 AM
Quote from: Spht on December 22, 2003, 01:14 PM
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MMMMCDXVDCCCLX = 4415860 = 'Cat'
I'd show you what 'Grok' is, but that'd be about 3000 characters unless someone knows the roman characters for numbers higher than 1,000,000 (if they exist).

I'm pretty sure the Romans would have represented Grok with characters, and not in 8-bit ASCII.

Craaapp.
Title: Re:Roman counting question
Post by: iago on December 23, 2003, 05:35 PM
Nah, they definately would have used unicode.  How else could they fit in all those silly characters? :)