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Title: I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: UserLoser. on November 25, 2003, 07:01 PM
:'(

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Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Alegbra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: hismajesty on November 25, 2003, 07:26 PM
Quote from: UserLoser. on November 25, 2003, 07:01 PM
:'(

Eww, I feel the same way with Algebra II/Trig. I beleive my D slipped down to an E after the midterm. :'(
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: Hazard on November 25, 2003, 08:05 PM
Algebra II/Trig is a breeze.
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: UserLoser. on November 25, 2003, 08:25 PM
Maybe I shouldn't even be in it, I'm probably the youngest one in the class considering just about everyone else is a junior/senior
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: Eibro on November 25, 2003, 08:28 PM
Quote from: UserLoser. on November 25, 2003, 08:25 PM
Maybe I shouldn't even be in it, I'm probably the youngest one in the class considering just about everyone else is a junior/senior
Meh, I doubt that has anything to do with it. I'm easily one of the youngest in my grade, and I was taking senior courses as a junior.
Could it be too much time on the computer?  ;)
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Alegbra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: Naem on November 26, 2003, 12:05 AM
Quote from: hismajesty on November 25, 2003, 07:26 PM
Quote from: UserLoser. on November 25, 2003, 07:01 PM
:'(

Eww, I feel the same way with Algebra II/Trig. I beleive my D slipped down to an E after the midterm. :'(

An E?
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: j0k3r on November 26, 2003, 05:51 AM
That's what I was thinking... What kind of a grading system are you on anyways?
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: iago on November 26, 2003, 08:21 AM
Your guys all suck; algebra is easy.  Even calculus is easy, or, at least, it starts easy.  Then it gets nasty.  
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: Mitosis on November 26, 2003, 09:34 AM
Trust what did I tell you, get off the computer, in Algebra Iv got 80 right now, we get our reports on Dec 6.
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: UserLoser. on November 26, 2003, 03:41 PM
In Illiniois, USA

Here, in my school district:

A = Best, E = Worst

We don't get F's for failure on our report cards
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: Yoni on November 26, 2003, 04:26 PM
Why don't you just have numeric grades like you're supposed to..?
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: hismajesty on November 26, 2003, 04:56 PM
A, B, C, D, E. Also, I think I'm going to drop IB since I think colleges will rather have A's in AP classes over D's in IB classes. Which would put me in regular Algebra II. Or I could drop it and take it later.
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: UserLoser. on November 26, 2003, 06:27 PM
90-100 = A
80-89 = B
70-79 = C
60-69 = D
59 & below = E

Along with;
90-93 = A-
87-89 = B+
80-83 = B-
...
and so on :p

So our grades are numeric, just shown as a letter
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: Yoni on November 27, 2003, 07:12 AM
"A" is not a number, it is a number range.
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: dxoigmn on November 29, 2003, 01:17 PM
Quote from: hismajesty on November 26, 2003, 04:56 PM
A, B, C, D, E. Also, I think I'm going to drop IB since I think colleges will rather have A's in AP classes over D's in IB classes. Which would put me in regular Algebra II. Or I could drop it and take it later.

Actually, most of them will care about your test score in that class if you take the AP Test.  Get a 5 and a D in the class, shows that you're smart but don't want to apply yourself.  Get a 5 and an A, shows that you're smart and willing to work hard.
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: hismajesty on December 02, 2003, 02:12 PM
Quote from: kamakazie on November 29, 2003, 01:17 PM
Quote from: hismajesty on November 26, 2003, 04:56 PM
A, B, C, D, E. Also, I think I'm going to drop IB since I think colleges will rather have A's in AP classes over D's in IB classes. Which would put me in regular Algebra II. Or I could drop it and take it later.

Actually, most of them will care about your test score in that class if you take the AP Test.  Get a 5 and a D in the class, shows that you're smart but don't want to apply yourself.  Get a 5 and an A, shows that you're smart and willing to work hard.

IB Test != AP Test.
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: dxoigmn on December 03, 2003, 11:58 AM
Quote from: hismajesty on December 02, 2003, 02:12 PM
IB Test != AP Test.

What's your point?
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: iago on December 03, 2003, 12:47 PM
IB is ++Harder than AP.  
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: Yoni on December 03, 2003, 05:17 PM
What's IB?
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: iago on December 03, 2003, 05:23 PM
International Bachetadghsaolkjv

It's ap++, much more difficult.  Harder assignments, and evil exams, but looks better.  

My school never offered it, but I've heard stories
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: UserLoser. on December 03, 2003, 05:59 PM
Quote from: kamakazie on November 29, 2003, 01:17 PM

Actually, most of them will care about your test score in that class if you take the AP Test.  Get a 5 and a D in the class, shows that you're smart but don't want to apply yourself.  Get a 5 and an A, shows that you're smart and willing to work hard.

I'd fall under the smart but not applying my self.  I've been slacking off on doing my homework, and havn't studied for a test since like the 6th grade... As far as tests, I generally do good, and exceed the average results...
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: hismajesty on December 03, 2003, 07:09 PM
Quote from: UserLoser. on December 03, 2003, 05:59 PM
Quote from: kamakazie on November 29, 2003, 01:17 PM

Actually, most of them will care about your test score in that class if you take the AP Test.  Get a 5 and a D in the class, shows that you're smart but don't want to apply yourself.  Get a 5 and an A, shows that you're smart and willing to work hard.

I'd fall under the smart but not applying my self.  I've been slacking off on doing my homework, and havn't studied for a test since like the 6th grade... As far as tests, I generally do good, and exceed the average results...

I've hardly ever studied for a test in my whole life. IB is said to be weighed equally with AP but I don't beleive that. The IB test is harder than the AP test and if you pass them you get the IB seal on your diploma, if you fail them you just get the IB certificate. My problem isn't that I'm not smart for, if I wasn't smart I wouldn't be in IB/AP/Honors or any of that mess but the putting effort towards it instead of goofing off part is my problem. Yoni is so deprived over there in Israel btw. :P
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: iago on December 04, 2003, 03:59 AM
I never studed untilU1.  But since I've been in university, I've been working my ass off.
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: j0k3r on December 04, 2003, 06:17 AM
You have to in university, tests and the exam make up almost your whole mark.
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: Mitosis on December 04, 2003, 07:13 AM
Hismajesty, why dont you ask for extra help man, come in like an hour earlyer before school starts. Get your teacher to teach you it or review it then practice some questions. Thats what I did for a couple weeks when I was having the trouble and now Im back up in the eightys. It would be best if YOU ask your teacher for help though. Remember just an hour a day can really help you.
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: Raven on December 04, 2003, 02:54 PM
My school didn't offer IB either, but from what I know, the International Baccalaureate math exam isn't considered much more prestigious than the AP Calculus AB and BC exams. The AP tests will essentially test your knowledge of the first three semesters of Calculus. It's more indepth than the Math IB which essentially tests your knowledge, understanding, and ability to apply a whole bunch of mathematics that you would have learned up to the point of taking the exam.
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: j0k3r on December 04, 2003, 03:22 PM
Quote from: Mitosis on December 04, 2003, 07:13 AM
Hismajesty, why dont you ask for extra help man, come in like an hour earlyer before school starts. Get your teacher to teach you it or review it then practice some questions. Thats what I did for a couple weeks when I was having the trouble and now Im back up in the eightys. It would be best if YOU ask your teacher for help though.
Firstly, highschool and university teachers do not care enough to come in early, some don't even care enough to stay after school to help you. Getting 80's in highschool is not quite as easy as 80's in elementary school, don't ask me why I still haven't figured out how I dropped from 80's to 60's.
Quote from: Mitosis on December 04, 2003, 07:13 AM
Remember just an hour a day can really help you.
One hour a day can also kill you, depending on what you spend it doing.
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: Banana fanna fo fanna on December 04, 2003, 03:39 PM
Blah, I homeroom my way through that class :)

Ti-83+ has saved my ass on many a test.
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: iago on December 04, 2003, 04:17 PM
Quote from: j0k3r on December 04, 2003, 03:22 PM
Quote from: Mitosis on December 04, 2003, 07:13 AM
Hismajesty, why dont you ask for extra help man, come in like an hour earlyer before school starts. Get your teacher to teach you it or review it then practice some questions. Thats what I did for a couple weeks when I was having the trouble and now Im back up in the eightys. It would be best if YOU ask your teacher for help though.
Firstly, highschool and university teachers do not care enough to come in early, some don't even care enough to stay after school to help you. Getting 80's in highschool is not quite as easy as 80's in elementary school, don't ask me why I still haven't figured out how I dropped from 80's to 60's.

My teachers were always there before and after class, and were always more than happy to talk about anything, unless they were very busy.  In university, it's even better.  I frequently talk to professors, both ones that teach my courses and ones who don't.
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: j0k3r on December 04, 2003, 05:50 PM
Quote from: iago on December 04, 2003, 04:17 PM
My teachers were always there before and after class, and were always more than happy to talk about anything, unless they were very busy.  In university, it's even better.  I frequently talk to professors, both ones that teach my courses and ones who don't.
Wow, where do you live again?
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: Eibro on December 04, 2003, 06:00 PM
Quote from: j0k3r on December 04, 2003, 05:50 PM
Quote from: iago on December 04, 2003, 04:17 PM
My teachers were always there before and after class, and were always more than happy to talk about anything, unless they were very busy.  In university, it's even better.  I frequently talk to professors, both ones that teach my courses and ones who don't.
Wow, where do you live again?
He lives in the Yukon.
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: iago on December 04, 2003, 06:44 PM
In Canada.  Winnipeg,to be precise.
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: Banana fanna fo fanna on December 04, 2003, 09:57 PM
I guess they'd rather stay in a building that has heat, eh?
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: dxoigmn on December 05, 2003, 09:16 PM
Quote from: iago on December 04, 2003, 04:17 PM
Quote from: j0k3r on December 04, 2003, 03:22 PM
Quote from: Mitosis on December 04, 2003, 07:13 AM
Hismajesty, why dont you ask for extra help man, come in like an hour earlyer before school starts. Get your teacher to teach you it or review it then practice some questions. Thats what I did for a couple weeks when I was having the trouble and now Im back up in the eightys. It would be best if YOU ask your teacher for help though.
Firstly, highschool and university teachers do not care enough to come in early, some don't even care enough to stay after school to help you. Getting 80's in highschool is not quite as easy as 80's in elementary school, don't ask me why I still haven't figured out how I dropped from 80's to 60's.

My teachers were always there before and after class, and were always more than happy to talk about anything, unless they were very busy.  In university, it's even better.  I frequently talk to professors, both ones that teach my courses and ones who don't.

Yes, my high school teachers were excellent about being in class a good hour or half-an-hour before class.  Even though I never talked to them then (unless I had to tell them I wasn't going to be in class or to turn in some assignment), there was still that option.  University is better as well because they are forced to have office hours; regardless they're still either in their office or in class for a lot of the day.
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: hismajesty on December 05, 2003, 11:23 PM
Quote from: Mitosis on December 04, 2003, 07:13 AM
Hismajesty, why dont you ask for extra help man, come in like an hour earlyer before school starts. Get your teacher to teach you it or review it then practice some questions. Thats what I did for a couple weeks when I was having the trouble and now Im back up in the eightys. It would be best if YOU ask your teacher for help though. Remember just an hour a day can really help you.

I'm not even dressed by 6:20 which is the time you want me to get to school?
QuoteMy school didn't offer IB either

I was told by my teacher that IB is so expensive that they only have it in one school per city.

QuoteTi-83+ has saved my ass on many a test.
We can't use calculators on most of our tests...die.
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: dxoigmn on December 06, 2003, 01:04 AM
Quote from: hismajesty on December 05, 2003, 11:23 PM
I was told by my teacher that IB is so expensive that they only have it in one school per city.

It is expensive.  It's a 2 year program.  That is why AP is better.  
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: hismajesty on December 06, 2003, 01:06 AM
Quote from: kamakazie on December 06, 2003, 01:04 AM
Quote from: hismajesty on December 05, 2003, 11:23 PM
I was told by my teacher that IB is so expensive that they only have it in one school per city.

It is expensive.  It's a 2 year program.  That is why AP is better.  

Hmm? How would the amount of money spent on teacher training (which is what makes it cost the city so much money) make AP better?
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: dxoigmn on December 06, 2003, 05:24 AM
Quote from: hismajesty on December 06, 2003, 01:06 AM
Quote from: kamakazie on December 06, 2003, 01:04 AM
Quote from: hismajesty on December 05, 2003, 11:23 PM
I was told by my teacher that IB is so expensive that they only have it in one school per city.

It is expensive.  It's a 2 year program.  That is why AP is better.  

Hmm? How would the amount of money spent on teacher training (which is what makes it cost the city so much money) make AP better?

If teacher's need to be trained for the courses then they shouldn't be teaching the course.  Anyways, from talking to people who have done the IB course stuff, they say the Diploma is better, but the certificates are not as good as AP.  And talking to them about the course rigor, it seems to me that they are both the same.  I think you believe IB is harder because it is a 2-year commitment while AP is not.
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: hismajesty on December 06, 2003, 06:49 AM
Quote from: kamakazie on December 06, 2003, 05:24 AM
Quote from: hismajesty on December 06, 2003, 01:06 AM
Quote from: kamakazie on December 06, 2003, 01:04 AM
Quote from: hismajesty on December 05, 2003, 11:23 PM
I was told by my teacher that IB is so expensive that they only have it in one school per city.

It is expensive.  It's a 2 year program.  That is why AP is better.  

Hmm? How would the amount of money spent on teacher training (which is what makes it cost the city so much money) make AP better?

If teacher's need to be trained for the courses then they shouldn't be teaching the course.  Anyways, from talking to people who have done the IB course stuff, they say the Diploma is better, but the certificates are not as good as AP.  And talking to them about the course rigor, it seems to me that they are both the same.  I think you believe IB is harder because it is a 2-year commitment while AP is not.

They have to train the teachers to be able to teach IB students in non-standard ways. In my opinion IB is a 4-year commitment because of Pre-IB in 9th/10th. According to the IB director, technically you can come into IB in 11th grade but you'd have trouble because IB English is so advanced. I agree that the curriculum in AP/IB is the same; however, IB moves master than AP. Of course on a realistic level IMO for most AP would be better than IB. Seeing as IB is harder your grades are likely to drop (like mine have) but in AP you don't have as much stress so your grades can stay fairly decent I guess.  :-\
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: j0k3r on December 06, 2003, 07:50 AM
For the sake of my sanity, tell me what IB and AP stand for.
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: Yoni on December 06, 2003, 08:21 AM
Quote from: j0k3r on December 06, 2003, 07:50 AM
For the sake of my sanity, tell me what IB and AP stand for.
I know AP stands for Advanced Placement... Dunno about IB.

Edit: Google knows. International Baccalaureate.
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: hismajesty on December 06, 2003, 08:49 AM
Quote from: Yoni on December 06, 2003, 08:21 AM
Google knows.

Google knows all.
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: j0k3r on December 06, 2003, 09:07 AM
Quote from: hismajesty on December 06, 2003, 08:49 AM
Quote from: Yoni on December 06, 2003, 08:21 AM
Google knows.

Google knows all.
Dictionary.com knows nothing, neither does whatis.com.
Title: Re:I'm hardly passing Algebra 3-4 with a D-
Post by: ObsidianWolf on December 07, 2003, 08:12 PM
Webster.com knows a bunch, even gives etimology.