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Title: Diablo II!
Post by: Probe on November 20, 2003, 01:53 PM
lets talk about diablo 2  :)
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: Adron on November 20, 2003, 02:12 PM
Quote from: Probe on November 20, 2003, 01:53 PM
lets talk about diablo 2  :)

Sure! Start talking!
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: j0k3r on November 20, 2003, 03:15 PM
Diablo 2 Expansion Hardcore Useast Ladder is where I play... That's really damn specific, I don't think blizzard should give us so many options to play from.

Man, theres a bid on ebay for an UnId shako going for 100$.
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: Adron on November 20, 2003, 05:18 PM
Is D2 great now with that patch?
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: Hitmen on November 20, 2003, 05:34 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3059969939&category=33884
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: j0k3r on November 20, 2003, 05:41 PM
Mmmm, that's nice...

1.1 is pretty good, it's a big improvement (I think).
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: Hitmen on November 20, 2003, 05:46 PM
It's also very sad. $400+ for something that's probably a scam~
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: j0k3r on November 20, 2003, 05:48 PM
Seller Information (0) feedback.
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: j0k3r on November 21, 2003, 10:33 AM
I knew it was going to go up in  the last day... But I had no idea...

$15 000...
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: Hostile on November 21, 2003, 12:18 PM
Grok and I can personally vouge that even though 1.10 adds a fair amount of replay if you're still sick of the thought of Diablo II from playing it so much before your opinion won't change much. 1.10 is great, makes it alot harder and being power acted just isn't possible, even if you're rushed you have twice as many quests to do and in short Catacombs lvl 3, Durance of Hate lvl 3, and Worldstone whatever before baal lvl 3 are -much- bigger. On top of this to get to the waypoints right before mephisto or baal you must kill the council which means getting khalims will and going to travincal, and for baal you must kill the ancients first. Hell is also much harder, Items are scarce so no matter what level you are you could die if you're not that good and its much much harder to get to lvl 99. When they reset the ladder in 1.09d, someone was lvl 99 within 2 days. Now its been over a month. Bottom line? Despite added challenge, items, and the diablo clone which spawns an amazing unique charm, its still diablo 2.
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: Probe on November 21, 2003, 01:55 PM
i play hardcore ladder also, msg me on *Probe_  ,maybe we can play sometime!
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: j0k3r on November 21, 2003, 03:18 PM
LMFAO@EBAY

Someone must have complained or something, they took it off. It was going for $15 000, I was disgusted but man I'm glad that was taken off...

Here is how power acting goes... You can still take the tp to cats 4 right away, in act 2 you need to go through the palace to arcane, which means you have to collect staff. In Act3 you need to go to travincial (through tp if you get someone) and kill the council, which will drops the will (which doesn't matter because you can take a tp to level 3 as soon as you see it drop). Act4 has no restrictions either, you can go straight to pandeminium(sp?) fortress (through tp), and in act5 you need to take a town portal to ancients way before you can go to worldstone2.
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: Hitmen on November 21, 2003, 04:05 PM
You need to be level (20 * diff, 1 for norm, 2 for nm, 3 for hell) to get credit for ancients quest and the ability to enter the worldstone keep as well.
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: Soul Taker on November 21, 2003, 04:12 PM
Or you can just join public games where people are killing the bosses, stay in town, and leech the quest, like I do.
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: Hitmen on November 21, 2003, 04:24 PM
Cheater!
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: j0k3r on November 21, 2003, 04:50 PM
Quote from: Hitmen on November 21, 2003, 04:05 PM
You need to be level (20 * diff, 1 for norm, 2 for nm, 3 for hell) to get credit for ancients quest and the ability to enter the worldstone keep as well.

That's just to get ancients.

Like I said already, you can get a tp to the ancients way right after beating diablo, and after you go into the ancients way you can take a tp to worldstone2 right away. Don't even bother trying to argue that because I've done it on 5 different characters.
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: Mitosis on November 22, 2003, 06:34 AM
Alright I dont have the game anymore but I have 12 accounts that are all level 86 ++, all chars are geared up, I got 7 mule accounts, I got about 7 unid WF, 6 unid GF's, 4 unid tal rasha sets, 13 unid shakos (some o.8 which are the best), 9 unid titens.
And no Im not giving away. Maybe when I buy the game again then maybe.
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: j0k3r on November 22, 2003, 07:57 AM
You would have to pay people to take that, nobody plays non-ladder anymore, your stuff is useless.
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: muert0 on November 22, 2003, 08:20 PM
sucks to know all your stuff is poo now huh
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: wut on November 23, 2003, 03:07 AM
Fuck Diablo 2, I'm hyped about the World of Warcraft :-P
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: j0k3r on November 23, 2003, 06:32 AM
Quote from: wut on November 23, 2003, 03:07 AM
Fuck Diablo 2, I'm hyped about the World of Warcraft :-P
I hope you're still interested in it in 2010.
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: Ansuz on November 25, 2003, 07:39 AM
how hard was the ancients on hell level for u guys? for me it took 16 full rejuves and every powerup i could have on on
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: Probe on November 26, 2003, 10:48 AM
i had no problem on softcore, but died once on HC. 1 hit kills are not cool :(
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: Ansuz on November 27, 2003, 06:56 AM
whats with this on the new patch it says "will expire in 10 days" on all my chars right after i make them....
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: 13-yr-Old-Newb on November 28, 2003, 07:26 PM
I used to play Diablo II LOD.  I quit, 1.10 SUX!!!  MY lvl 99 hacked up char can't kill baal in hell?????  Blizzard screwed the game over with 1.10...Well at least that is what I think.
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: Mitosis on November 28, 2003, 07:34 PM
Notice how you said "hacked" I read the forum on Battle.net and they said with the new patch all the hacked stuff will be taken care of.
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: j0k3r on November 28, 2003, 08:21 PM
Quote from: 13-yr-Old-Newb on November 28, 2003, 07:26 PM
I used to play Diablo II LOD.  I quit, 1.10 SUX!!!  MY lvl 99 hacked up char can't kill baal in hell?????  Blizzard screwed the game over with 1.10...Well at least that is what I think.
Good, quit you little homo... kill yourself... 'my hacked up char can't do hell baal'... What a fag, what's the matter? Can't handle playing D2 legit?

[edit]Sorry to anyone I might have offended (anyone except 13-yr-old-fag), I'm just tired of these pussies who can't play games properly and so have to cheat, and complain when they're caught, once again, go kill yourself.[/edit]
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: Rock on March 04, 2004, 09:08 AM
Diablo II used to be a great game and one I played a lot. The patch completely ruined it. Sorcs do 0 dmg while paladins can kill you from far away with 1 shot. Plus ladder items aren't worth anything on ebay and only non ladder items are good. Frankly D2 is old and so I quit playin.
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: iago on March 07, 2004, 08:36 PM
Quote from: Rock on March 04, 2004, 09:08 AM
Diablo II used to be a great game and one I played a lot. The patch completely ruined it. Sorcs do 0 dmg while paladins can kill you from far away with 1 shot. Plus ladder items aren't worth anything on ebay and only non ladder items are good. Frankly D2 is old and so I quit playin.
Sorc's are great, some builds of palidans are overpowered till about level 70, and their ranged damange is max of 500 (avg 250) lightning, ladders sell better than anything, and ladder/non-ladder are the same, except ladder has a lot that non-ladder doesn't have.  And nobody's posted in this thread in over 3 months.  

Thank you for flaunting your ignorance.
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: Adron on March 07, 2004, 08:43 PM
What's the drawback of ladder?
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: j0k3r on March 07, 2004, 09:01 PM
Quote from: j0k3r on November 28, 2003, 08:21 PM
Quote from: Rock on March 04, 2004, 09:08 AM
Kill yourself now.
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: iago on March 08, 2004, 09:22 AM
Quote from: Adron on March 07, 2004, 08:43 PM
What's the drawback of ladder?

There isn't one.  Unless you count that pre-1.1 characters can't play on the ladder, so as of 1.1 everybody had to make new characters.  But I don't mind, starting fresh was fun.
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: Adron on March 08, 2004, 11:45 AM
Quote from: iago on March 08, 2004, 09:22 AM
There isn't one.  Unless you count that pre-1.1 characters can't play on the ladder, so as of 1.1 everybody had to make new characters.  But I don't mind, starting fresh was fun.

And the characters aren't automatically reset at some point in time or something? Maybe they are turned into regular characters at the end of a ladder season?
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: iago on March 08, 2004, 12:49 PM
Quote from: Adron on March 08, 2004, 11:45 AM
Quote from: iago on March 08, 2004, 09:22 AM
There isn't one.  Unless you count that pre-1.1 characters can't play on the ladder, so as of 1.1 everybody had to make new characters.  But I don't mind, starting fresh was fun.

And the characters aren't automatically reset at some point in time or something? Maybe they are turned into regular characters at the end of a ladder season?

That would anger a lot of people, so probably not.  

The reason for the "ladder" play is that 1.1 (tried) to eliminate duping and hacking, and they wanted people to have fresh characters, so they added another mode of play so people can play without worrying about hacking going on.
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: Hitmen on March 08, 2004, 01:45 PM
Quote from: iago on March 08, 2004, 12:49 PM
Quote from: Adron on March 08, 2004, 11:45 AM
Quote from: iago on March 08, 2004, 09:22 AM
There isn't one.  Unless you count that pre-1.1 characters can't play on the ladder, so as of 1.1 everybody had to make new characters.  But I don't mind, starting fresh was fun.

And the characters aren't automatically reset at some point in time or something? Maybe they are turned into regular characters at the end of a ladder season?

That would anger a lot of people, so probably not.  

The reason for the "ladder" play is that 1.1 (tried) to eliminate duping and hacking, and they wanted people to have fresh characters, so they added another mode of play so people can play without worrying about hacking going on.

Whenever blizzard decides to end the ladder season, yes, the charactes will be turned into non-ladder characters and the ladder will be fresh again. I remember seeing this asked many many times on the battle.net forums.
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: iago on March 08, 2004, 02:06 PM
hmm, that's going to be really horrible, then.  At least the ladder-specific items will be extremely valuable...
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: j0k3r on March 08, 2004, 02:17 PM
Not horrible, good. The point of ladder is to be in competition, and already I'm seem people with the most elite gear possible on every character, but no 99s yet (hardcore useast ladder), so there is SOMETHING left but not alot. Once it resets everyone will be equal again and the race will start over.

I personally like the idea because it means that ladder items on ebay go back up in value.
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: muert0 on March 08, 2004, 03:20 PM
Quoteiago: That would anger a lot of people, so probably not.
When has a patch came out for diablo ii that didnt piss the majority of the people off. I still remember when they ruined hammerdins.
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: Skywing on March 08, 2004, 03:51 PM
Quote from: crashtestdummy on March 08, 2004, 03:20 PM
Quoteiago: That would anger a lot of people, so probably not.
When has a patch came out for diablo ii that didnt piss the majority of the people off. I still remember when they ruined hammerdins.
I wonder how you determine whether the majority of Diablo II users dislike it?
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: muert0 on March 08, 2004, 04:02 PM
Blah sitting in OTS listening to all the kids bitch about it, different forums, and stuff of that nature. But, I didn't go run any polls or anything so I have no proof.
The majority of them pissed me off, because it would ruin my setup on most of my characters.
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: iago on March 08, 2004, 08:07 PM
Quote from: crashtestdummy on March 08, 2004, 03:20 PM
Quoteiago: That would anger a lot of people, so probably not.
When has a patch came out for diablo ii that didnt piss the majority of the people off. I still remember when they ruined hammerdins.

They ruined hammerdins for a couple days then changed it back, didn't they?
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: j0k3r on March 08, 2004, 08:17 PM
Naw they sucked in 1.09, now they kick ass again.

Patches don't piss people off, it's the content change that pisses people off. Even then, they're not pissed about the whole thing, just 1 or 2 things they weren't expecting, I'm sure alot of them were overjoyed to see the patch being downloaded (and complained about it not being there for months in advance).
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: muert0 on March 09, 2004, 12:50 AM
HAmmerdins are good again? Makes me wanna reinstall windows... sorta.
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: Adron on March 09, 2004, 04:46 AM
People complain at every change. People have been abusing abusable things, and when they can no longer abuse, they're unhappy.

Obviously, everyone will go for the one single path that is unbalancedly best, and when Blizzard does something about balancing, relatively increasing monster toughness and the efficiency of other builds, people will complain.

Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: j0k3r on March 09, 2004, 06:13 AM
Quote from: Adron on March 09, 2004, 04:46 AM
Obviously, everyone will go for the one single path that is unbalancedly best, and when Blizzard does something about balancing, relatively increasing monster toughness and the efficiency of other builds, people will complain.
And yet, before they balance it people complain about it being too easy, and after they balance it they tell they're friends how happy they are about...
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: Skywing on March 09, 2004, 04:22 PM
Quote from: crashtestdummy on March 08, 2004, 04:02 PM
Blah sitting in OTS listening to all the kids bitch about it, different forums, and stuff of that nature. But, I didn't go run any polls or anything so I have no proof.
The majority of them pissed me off, because it would ruin my setup on most of my characters.
There are literally millions of active players on Battle.net, and there are typically > 100K on at any given time.  I would have to say that even a few hundred people complaining in Open Tech Support or the Battle.net forums represents a tiny minority.
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: j0k3r on March 09, 2004, 04:52 PM
Quote from: Skywing on March 09, 2004, 04:22 PM
Quote from: crashtestdummy on March 08, 2004, 04:02 PM
Blah sitting in OTS listening to all the kids bitch about it, different forums, and stuff of that nature. But, I didn't go run any polls or anything so I have no proof.
The majority of them pissed me off, because it would ruin my setup on most of my characters.
There are literally millions of active players on Battle.net, and there are typically > 100K on at any given time.  I would have to say that even a few hundred people complaining in Open Tech Support or the Battle.net forums represents a tiny minority.
A couple months ago there was more than 100k on Diablo 2 at any given momment.
Title: Re:Diablo II!
Post by: muert0 on March 09, 2004, 10:13 PM
Skywing thats true I wasn't trying to argue about it I said I have no real idea. Just know what most of the people I heard bitching about it.