Hey all, just gunna post my new computer that I am going to get very soon. Tell me if its any good and what you think.
http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&dept=1&WLBS=fsweb5&sku_id=0665000FS10032219&catid=&newdeptid=1
WebID: 10032219
Mfr. Part Number: 500HE
Available Expansion Slots 2 PCI & 1 AGP 8x
CPU Speed 2.4 GHz
Graphic Card 128MB GeForce4 FX5200 8x AGP card
Hard Drive 160GB 7200RPM
I/O Ports 8 USB, Serial, Parallel, 2 PS/2
Included Software Microsoft Works Suite, Word, Encarta
Monitor Included? Monitor Not Included
Network Card 10/100 Ethernet
Optical Drives 48x24x48 CD-RW & 16x/48x DVD-ROM
Other Control Devices No
Preloaded Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
RAM 512MB PC2700 333MHz DDR (exp. to 1.0GB)
Removable Storage No
Sound Card Integrated AC'97 Sound Card
Speakers BA745 speakers with sub woofer
System Bus 800 MHz
Warranty 1 Year Limited On Site Hardware Service
I am also going to be getting;
Visual Basic.net
Battle Field 1942
Raven Shield
Kill Switch
Photo Shop 10.0
Halo
Call of Duty
Well there isn't really a point to fix this computer that I am on now. My mom shocked me with the news that I would be getting a new computer that isnt used and isnt a pile of shit for once in my life!
Building your own computer would much more cost-effective than paying $1100 for that Gateway. x86 PC hardware is not hard to work with, from start to finish it should take you no more than an hour.
At any rate, though, congratulations :P
Hey thanks, first time Ill actually get a comp that isnt outdated, right now I am on my gay ass peice of shit pentuim 3 500 Mhz. oH Ima over clock it to 600 Mhz thats so great ;(
Not too bad...
Quote from: j0k3r on November 17, 2003, 06:03 PM
Not too bad...
You talking about the comp I already have or what I am getting?
The one you're getting.
I'll even take the old one for s&h fees.
wut - he can't format his current computer, I dont want to see him trying to put one together.
Also, send me your old computer; I'd love to have one of that speed sitting around here :P
I know how to install ****ing windows Xp or operating systems, like I stated before, when I would pop the cd in, it wouldnt install!
Just because my computer wouldnt install it doesnt mean I dont know how, and I know I dont know shit about programming or alot about comps, but Im just saying I do know how to install an OS.
Quote from: iago on November 17, 2003, 06:07 PM
wut - he can't format his current computer, I dont want to see him trying to put one together.
Also, send me your old computer; I'd love to have one of that speed sitting around here :P
Ohh yeah, my graphics card in this beast is a 3dfx Voodo 3
Quote from: Mitosis on November 17, 2003, 06:09 PM
I know how to install ****ing windows Xp or operating systems, like I stated before, when I would pop the cd in, it wouldnt install!
Just because my computer wouldnt install it doesnt mean I dont know how, and I know I dont know shit about programming or alot about comps, but Im just saying I do know how to install an OS.
As we tried to explain to you, the reason it wouldn't install when you 'popped the CD in' is because you were not setting your boot order to CD before HDD-0. You stated to DarkVirus that you "did not know how to do that".
Most all BIOS can be entered by pressing either the DEL key or F2 key at the appropriate time. This "time" is prior to the OS beginning to load and usually right after you see the video card logo/name flashed on the screen.
Popping your CD in while Windows XP is already running isn't going to do jack.
You need to put it in, shut the CD door, shut down the computer, let it power off, (by the way, the WinXP CD should still be in the drive). Now power it up, and when it starts looking for a bootable device, it will start with CD (assuming you made those BIOS changes AND SAVED THEM), and display a message like ...
"Press any key to boot from CD...."
If you press a key, WIndows XP will start loading from the CD. If you don't press a key, the system will move on to the next bootable device (HDD-0 probably).
You absolutely to not need to waste $1000 on a new computer.
What you need to do is pay me $250 for this tech support session. YOU SAVE $750.00 !!
My paypal:
[email protected]Invoice Amt: $250.00
I said the BIOS because I was confused about what I was supposed to do in there, plus its not in there on my comp.
Quote from: Mitosis on November 17, 2003, 07:05 PM
I said the BIOS because I was confused about what I was supposed to do in there, plus its not in there on my comp.
What kind of BIOS do you have? Version?
Plug and Play I think. Like I knew what you guys were saying, but I couldnt find it under the BIOS so I thought I did something wrong.
*Sigh*
Don't get a FX 5200. If you want an FX get at least a 5600. The entire Ti 4x00 series will outperform the 5200 and for the same price (or less).
Quote from: Grok on November 17, 2003, 07:04 PM
Quote from: Mitosis on November 17, 2003, 06:09 PM
I know how to install ****ing windows Xp or operating systems, like I stated before, when I would pop the cd in, it wouldnt install!
Just because my computer wouldnt install it doesnt mean I dont know how, and I know I dont know shit about programming or alot about comps, but Im just saying I do know how to install an OS.
You need to put it in, shut the CD door, shut down the computer, let it power off, (by the way, the WinXP CD should still be in the drive). Now power it up, and when it starts looking for a bootable device, it will start with CD (assuming you made those BIOS changes AND SAVED THEM), and display a message like ...
Isn't leaving a cd in the drive when the computer's off harmful to the machine? ;)
Quote from: iago on November 18, 2003, 10:25 AM
Quote from: Grok on November 17, 2003, 07:04 PM
Quote from: Mitosis on November 17, 2003, 06:09 PM
I know how to install ****ing windows Xp or operating systems, like I stated before, when I would pop the cd in, it wouldnt install!
Just because my computer wouldnt install it doesnt mean I dont know how, and I know I dont know shit about programming or alot about comps, but Im just saying I do know how to install an OS.
You need to put it in, shut the CD door, shut down the computer, let it power off, (by the way, the WinXP CD should still be in the drive). Now power it up, and when it starts looking for a bootable device, it will start with CD (assuming you made those BIOS changes AND SAVED THEM), and display a message like ...
Isn't leaving a cd in the drive when the computer's off harmful to the machine? ;)
Since when?
Quote from: Spht on November 18, 2003, 10:30 AM
Quote from: iago on November 18, 2003, 10:25 AM
Quote from: Grok on November 17, 2003, 07:04 PM
Quote from: Mitosis on November 17, 2003, 06:09 PM
I know how to install ****ing windows Xp or operating systems, like I stated before, when I would pop the cd in, it wouldnt install!
Just because my computer wouldnt install it doesnt mean I dont know how, and I know I dont know shit about programming or alot about comps, but Im just saying I do know how to install an OS.
You need to put it in, shut the CD door, shut down the computer, let it power off, (by the way, the WinXP CD should still be in the drive). Now power it up, and when it starts looking for a bootable device, it will start with CD (assuming you made those BIOS changes AND SAVED THEM), and display a message like ...
Isn't leaving a cd in the drive when the computer's off harmful to the machine? ;)
Since when?
I was lying; notice the winkey? :)
Quote from: iago on November 18, 2003, 10:35 AM
Quote from: Spht on November 18, 2003, 10:30 AM
Quote from: iago on November 18, 2003, 10:25 AM
Quote from: Grok on November 17, 2003, 07:04 PM
Quote from: Mitosis on November 17, 2003, 06:09 PM
I know how to install ****ing windows Xp or operating systems, like I stated before, when I would pop the cd in, it wouldnt install!
Just because my computer wouldnt install it doesnt mean I dont know how, and I know I dont know shit about programming or alot about comps, but Im just saying I do know how to install an OS.
You need to put it in, shut the CD door, shut down the computer, let it power off, (by the way, the WinXP CD should still be in the drive). Now power it up, and when it starts looking for a bootable device, it will start with CD (assuming you made those BIOS changes AND SAVED THEM), and display a message like ...
Isn't leaving a cd in the drive when the computer's off harmful to the machine? ;)
Since when?
I was lying; notice the winkey? :)
I thought the winkey meant SO NOW YOU'RE SCREWED!
nono, it means "You'd better not believe this, or you're a moron"
I have little confidence that Mitosis has actually gone into his BIOS settings. When asked what his BIOS version number is, his reply was Plug and Play. Since I'd really like to see him save his money, and since he and I apparently have a communication gap, maybe someone else can help him differently, with more success.
There's no reason why he has the only PC in the world that won't boot to CD. Someone help him.
I have actually had a computer that wouldn't boot to cd, and it was incredibly annoying. However, that was an olde 486, and I don't think a P3 would change that.
Mitosis - when you boot the computer, it'll say "Press <F1> to enter Setup" or "Press Del to enter setup" or something like that. Do you see it?
Yes and I went into the bois, moved the arrow key to the right to the BOOT tab, there is no boot from cd in there.
Quote from: Mitosis on November 18, 2003, 04:52 PM
Yes and I went into the bois, moved the arrow key to the right to the BOOT tab, there is no boot from cd in there.
Write down the list of options and post it here.
try flashing your bios.
Quote from: iago on November 18, 2003, 05:14 PM
Quote from: Mitosis on November 18, 2003, 04:52 PM
Yes and I went into the bois, moved the arrow key to the right to the BOOT tab, there is no boot from cd in there.
Write down the list of options and post it here.
AwardBIOS Setup Utility
Main / Advanced / Power / Boot / Exit
What's it say under boot?
Quote from: iago on November 18, 2003, 06:16 PM
What's it say under boot?
/ Boot \ [thats the tab]
1) Removable Device = [Disabled]
2) IDE Hard-Drive = [WDCWD400BB-00DEAO]
3) Atapi CD-ROM = [Atapi 44xCDROM]
4) Other Boot Device = [INTI8Device(Network)]
Plug and Play O/S = [No]
Reset Configuration = [No]
Boot Virus Detection = [Enabled]
Quick Power On Self Test = [Enabled]
Boot Up Floppy Seek = [Enabled]
Full Screen Logo = [Enabled]
Quote from: Mitosis on November 17, 2003, 05:42 PM
Photo Shop 10.0
And here I thought the latest version was CS(8.0). hehe You must be one special guy to skip 2 versions ahead into the future. Hey did they finally add mind reader cards to just import the mental image youre thinking of directly into Photoshop?
Quote from: Hostile on November 18, 2003, 06:58 PM
Quote from: Mitosis on November 17, 2003, 05:42 PM
Photo Shop 10.0
And here I thought the latest version was CS(8.0). hehe You must be one special guy to skip 2 versions ahead into the future. Hey did they finally add mind reader cards to just import the mental image youre thinking of directly into Photoshop?
Thats what my brother told me so I dunno..
Quote from: Mitosis on November 18, 2003, 06:41 PM
Quote from: iago on November 18, 2003, 06:16 PM
What's it say under boot?
/ Boot \ [thats the tab]
1) Removable Device = [Disabled]
2) IDE Hard-Drive = [WDCWD400BB-00DEAO]
3) Atapi CD-ROM = [Atapi 44xCDROM]
4) Other Boot Device = [INTI8Device(Network)]
Plug and Play O/S = [No]
Reset Configuration = [No]
Boot Virus Detection = [Enabled]
Quick Power On Self Test = [Enabled]
Boot Up Floppy Seek = [Enabled]
Full Screen Logo = [Enabled]
Well thats what it says under Boot
Great. Swap #2 and #3 by using the down arrow and select then, press ENTER and change the list to:
1) Removable Device = [Disabled]
2) Atapi CD-ROM = [Atapi 44xCDROM]
3) IDE Hard-Drive = [WDCWD400BB-00DEAO]
4) Other Boot Device = [INTI8Device(Network)]
also change:
Plug and Play O/S = [Yes]
Reset Configuration = [Yes]
Boot Up Floppy Seek = [Disabled]
NOW: Put your Windows XP into the CD drive.
SAVE AND EXIT those changes. System will reboot.
As it boots up, it will say "press any key to boot from CD..." press a key!
Windows XP setup will load from the CD drive. When it gives you the option, delete the existing partition and install XP into the unpartitioned space, with NTFS.
Go go!
Thanks Grok, but I cant do it till tonight, my neighbor is burning me a XP cd. Plus I got to go to school in like 30 mins, so Ill post during recess, damn net nanny probably wont let me though.
Quote from: Mitosis on November 19, 2003, 06:43 AM
Thanks Grok, but I cant do it till tonight, my neighbor is burning me a XP cd. Plus I got to go to school in like 30 mins, so Ill post during recess, damn net nanny probably wont let me though.
*covers ears*
We don't support software piracy here, so I never heard that!
Quote from: Mitosis on November 19, 2003, 06:43 AM
Thanks Grok, but I cant do it till tonight, my neighbor is burning me a XP cd. Plus I got to go to school in like 30 mins, so Ill post during recess, damn net nanny probably wont let me though.
RECESS!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!?!!!!!????
Yes, didn't he say he goes to high school next year?
Ok, guys, I'm from a foreign culture, and I vaguely heard this a few times so please explain this to me once and for all.
What's all this crap about USA high schools not having recess?
Quote from: Yoni on November 19, 2003, 03:01 PM
Ok, guys, I'm from a foreign culture, and I vaguely heard this a few times so please explain this to me once and for all.
What's all this crap about USA high schools not having recess?
It's as simple as that. I have yet to see a USA highschool with recess.
So, what, when class ends you have to hurry up to the next one?
What if the next one's at the other edge of school?
Do you get time to eat? Or are you forced to starve?
Quote from: Yoni on November 19, 2003, 03:06 PM
So, what, when class ends you have to hurry up to the next one?
What if the next one's at the other edge of school?
Do you get time to eat? Or are you forced to starve?
Generally get about 30 minutes to eat so its hardly a factor of that and on top of that usually get 5-10 minutes between classes.
Quote from: Yoni on November 19, 2003, 03:06 PM
So, what, when class ends you have to hurry up to the next one?
What if the next one's at the other edge of school?
Do you get time to eat? Or are you forced to starve?
It's the same in Canada. You have 5 minutes to get to the next class, no matter where it is. Recess is usually 1 hour long in between periods 2 and 3.
K I am going to do what Grok told me now, and Im only in grade.8
We had recess (2 15 minute breaks) from grade 1 - 6. Since then, we've had 1hr lunch breaks and not necessarely 100% filled time table.
I think I had at least 3 free periods a week the first three years of high school, and maybe 8 a week (2 a day / none one day) senior year. If that's not recess, I don't know what is.
Hmm, apparently I'm unaware of the correct definition of recess.
My definition is "a break between two consecutive classes".
So according to the previous few posts you do have recess, even if it's a crappy 5 minute one.
Or am I wrong?
1 hour lunch breaks sound like halfway between amazing and a waste of time.
We don't have official "lunch breaks", the longest recess/break/whatever is 20 minutes.
Wait, you have a cafeteria, too, don't you? Capitalists. :)
I spend most of the time in the computer lab, actually, not so much a waste.
Grok, thanks alot for your help man I really apreciate it, I learned something new and I did it on my own (with your explanation of how, of course :)), well thanks again man.
So.... did it work?
Yeah, the only problem now is that I dont have an anti virus and I just got a fucking Blaster Worm and deleted it with Mircrosofts patch.
The 5 minutes is not a break, it's the time it takes to get around the halls of my school to the next class.
No your wrong for me...
this is how it gos
classes start at 9 am
recess 10:30 - 10:45
class 10:45 - 12 pm
12 to 1 is lunch break
1 - 2:30 is classes
2:45 to 3:30 is classes
3:35 is dissmisal
Quote from: Mitosis on November 19, 2003, 05:47 PM
Grok, thanks alot for your help man I really apreciate it, I learned something new and I did it on my own (with your explanation of how, of course :)), well thanks again man.
I have renewed hope for you!
In the future, when several people are telling you the same advice, if you're having trouble following it, the fault probably is with you, not with the advice.
Just thought of something funny. Most of the time when several vL tell you to reformat C:, we're just messing with someone. In your case we were actually trying to help!
Well, Grok, when I was re-installing windows it didnt delete the old portion, I would press D and it would say it cant delete it.... so therefore I got a new fresh xp but my old xp is still on here..
is a 160GB harddrive really necessary?
Not necessary, but the extra space is always good to have.
And it's ridiculously cheap.
Did I mention I bought an 80 gig drive for my system and I've only used about 17 gigs even when including all my software, developer tools, music, etc.... 160 is definately a little excessive :)
Mitosis, remember what I said last night? You need to boot either using boot disks (Windows XP Professional) or from the cd so you can get to the setup screen. If you start the installation from inside Windows, you can only install a "fresh" copy of windows but not delete the old installation. For this reason you need to delete your partition (or thats what I always do, saves potential problems for later) by booting into the setup. If you don't, you will just get the same problem you recieved because the C: drive is still using temporary files and can't delete them. I can't seem to stress that enough to you :)
Well the boot disks wont work, second of all It did give me the option to delete, and I tried and an error would come up saying it cannot delete it..
Quote from: DarkVirus on November 20, 2003, 02:58 PM
Did I mention I bought an 80 gig drive for my system and I've only used about 17 gigs even when including all my software, developer tools, music, etc.... 160 is definately a little excessive :)
Mitosis, remember what I said last night? You need to boot either using boot disks (Windows XP Professional) or from the cd so you can get to the setup screen. If you start the installation from inside Windows, you can only install a "fresh" copy of windows but not delete the old installation. For this reason you need to delete your partition (or thats what I always do, saves potential problems for later) by booting into the setup. If you don't, you will just get the same problem you recieved because the C: drive is still using temporary files and can't delete them. I can't seem to stress that enough to you :)
160GB may be excessive for
your uses, but other people may have different needs.
Quote from: Grok on November 19, 2003, 07:04 PM
Quote from: Mitosis on November 19, 2003, 05:47 PM
Grok, thanks alot for your help man I really apreciate it, I learned something new and I did it on my own (with your explanation of how, of course :)), well thanks again man.
I have renewed hope for you!
In the future, when several people are telling you the same advice, if you're having trouble following it, the fault probably is with you, not with the advice.
Just thought of something funny. Most of the time when several vL tell you to reformat C:, we're just messing with someone. In your case we were actually trying to help!
Grok, I think he was sucking up. :P
And recess, man, I haven't had that since 6th grade.
Do you have a playground?
Everyone has differnt courses, heres my scheduling.
8:30 - 9:55 (Class 1)
9:55-10:10 (Break)
10:15-11:30 (Class 2)
11:30-11:55 (Lunch)
12:00-1:45 (Class 3 )
1:45 (Senior release, I go home.)
Also, playgrounds rule, though we haven't touched ours since 6th grade...sigh.. the good ol' days of red rover.
Im not trying to suck up, Im just saying thanks, thats all. And I know other people told me to "reformat" but Grok actually tought me how step by step.
Fix your sig. It ruins every thread you post in (way too wide).
Quote from: Kp on November 20, 2003, 06:54 PM
Fix your sig. It ruins every thread you post in (way too wide).
Or just turn off sigs?
I feexed it.
Quote from: Probe on November 20, 2003, 01:52 PM
is a 160GB harddrive really necessary?
I have 2 (full) 120Gb drives and I just added a 200Gb.
Quote from: j0k3r on November 20, 2003, 07:02 PM
Or just turn off sigs?
They are off. That's the problem. He had a massive url tag in his signature.
Thanks, Thing.
Trust me, 160GB will be perfect for me, considering all the stuff I like to have.
Arta, I have never even heard of that...
2 40gig HDDs serve me well, I just need room for my games, about 200songs and some random programs.
Yeah I like to have like 8 games, some programming stuff, Photoshop and random shit Ill dl.
Well, I have quite a lot of stuff :)
Quote from: Arta[vL] on November 21, 2003, 10:44 AM
Well, I have quite a lot of stuff :)
All of Cupheads kiddie porn until the case is over???
SHH! It's not legal in England either, are you trying to get Arta caught?
All you really need is about 30gb of hd space for most needs but once you install more the one OS, like keep just about everything and save tons of media (mp3s, movies) on top of games (basically excessive amounts of entertainment you quickly run out of space. On top of this 120 GB harddrive are only about $60 after mail in rebates so there isn't much reason to not keep all of this on on your computer.
I have 10gb on my laptop, which I usually use to hold 1-2 games and VS.net and other utilities/stuff. I also have 40GB on my main computer which I use to hold anything big that I don't need at school/etc. (movies, mostly).
I tend to convert all my movies to VCD and burn them, though. I need a DVD burner :)
For those of us who work with uncompressed video, big hard drives are a must.
Quote from: Thing on November 21, 2003, 11:47 AM
Quote from: Arta[vL] on November 21, 2003, 10:44 AM
Well, I have quite a lot of stuff :)
All of Cupheads kiddie porn until the case is over???
Kiddie porn is illegal?
Oh shit...
lmfao Storm, DUH!!! Plus guys I need a big hard drive, Im still a new and I dont really tend to like delete it all the proper way.
Quote from: Mitosis on November 22, 2003, 06:20 AM
lmfao Storm, DUH!!! Plus guys I need a big hard drive, Im still a new and I dont really tend to like delete it all the proper way.
Then you should get a smaller hard drive so you LEARN to delete everything properly. I find there is nothing worse than an 'Add/Remove Programs' list with 100 items, all of which were deleted through the C drive. Not to mention everything you leave behind, if someone got into your computer who knows what they could find.
Well I have a tendancy to download 3d modeling programs, editors and stuff like that, nothing bad, just sometimes I never remove them. Plus I am a huge gamer, when I get my new comp Ill have like 15 games.
Yea.... I wish my parents baught me everything too...
actually i went with mitosis to look at comps just yesterday.... i dont think he is getting the same one as last time
Quote from: mr.marbles on November 23, 2003, 06:09 PM
actually i went with mitosis to look at comps just yesterday.... i dont think he is getting the same one as last time
Yeah the fucking Future shop doesnt have it in anymore, Gay bastards!!!
Quote from: mr.marbles on November 23, 2003, 06:09 PM
actually i went with mitosis to look at comps just yesterday.... i dont think he is getting the same one as last time
One would hope not...
Im probably going to just get one like that, custom built though.
iago did you say that you had a 268 comp those things are beasts
My comp is really 300 MHZ I think, My brother overclocked it to 500 lol. Now he says hes going to OC it to 600 lmao.
the 268 isent the speed its like one of the first ever procecors for a pc
Oh, and guys Mr.Marbles is my best friend Colin, so you all know. Oh Colin post who you are in the /whoami topic. Anyway iago Ill send you this comp for 300 bucks if your still up for it ;)
Quote from: mr.marbles on November 23, 2003, 07:03 PM
the 268 isent the speed its like one of the first ever procecors for a pc
Perhaps you are thinking of Intel's 80286, commonly called 286 for short?
Quote from: Kp on November 23, 2003, 09:12 PM
Quote from: mr.marbles on November 23, 2003, 07:03 PM
the 268 isent the speed its like one of the first ever procecors for a pc
Perhaps you are thinking of Intel's 80286, commonly called 286 for short?
That's what I think he mean.
And no, my other computer is a 500Mhz Celeron, which runs realllly well for the speed.
Yeah but mines only 300 mhz! :)
mines 333 MHz Intel Celeron with 312 MB of RAM
Quote from: MrRaza on November 24, 2003, 06:44 AM
mines 333 MHz Intel Celeron with 312 MB of RAM
312? How's that work? 320 makes sense, because it's 256+64, but 312?
mine is 2.4ghz with 512 ddr ram, and ya i ment 286
256+32+16+8?
you would need a piss load of dimm slots
Quote from: iago on November 24, 2003, 08:36 AM
Quote from: MrRaza on November 24, 2003, 06:44 AM
mines 333 MHz Intel Celeron with 312 MB of RAM
312? How's that work? 320 makes sense, because it's 256+64, but 312?
256+32+16+8?
i dont think that would be possible you cant get 8mb dimms
I want to get an Alienware, to bad its fucking Americian pricing, I dont got 4 grand. So I guess I got to find a good place to get custom built.
Make it yourself~
Yeah but where...
At home?
Like what site????
I honestly wouldn't recommend building it yourself with your knowledge of computers. Even I wouldn't want to build one myself without learning more stuff about how it all fits together.
Quote from: mr.marbles on November 24, 2003, 03:17 PM
i dont think that would be possible you cant get 8mb dimms
Its possible, there used to be quite some time back, judging the speed of his processor its even more likely but the main thing that doesn't add up is the number of dimm slots. 4 is standard in many computers however I have never seen a celeron chipset with 4 dimms. Whats more likely is:
A: He made a typo.
B: He doesn't know what hes saying.
C: He went to look up how much memory he had, it said that but he has shared memory for integrated graphics as well which very likely dedicated 8 MB of ram for his video.
I know I dont know how alot of stuff works but I can name some stuff, but thats useless I guess.