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Programming => Battle.net Bot Development => Topic started by: Gangz on November 01, 2003, 11:55 PM

Title: Rep icon ;D
Post by: Gangz on November 01, 2003, 11:55 PM
Does anyone know how to make the  legendary rep icon? If so I would much like to know  ;D
Title: Re:Rep icon ;D
Post by: Dyndrilliac on November 02, 2003, 12:00 AM
The Icon code is Icon_Blizz(In my bot, at least), but so far I only know how to make it appear CLientSided. I imagine you have to send a packet that only Blizzard TechBots send, or are coded to send upon logging on.
Title: Re:Rep icon ;D
Post by: Gangz on November 02, 2003, 02:31 AM
Yea im trieng to look for the packet it sends that makes it have that icon.I don't think it's possible to find but its work a shot.
Title: Re:Rep icon ;D
Post by: Dyndrilliac on November 02, 2003, 03:08 AM
Well, not all the time its sending a packet, for example, the UDP plug is only obtainable by not sending 0x14 before 0x51 or at all, so possibly there is a packet being sent that keeps you from using the TechBot Icon, which the Blizzard bot doesn't send. It can work eitherway.
Title: Re:Rep icon ;D
Post by: Paul on November 02, 2003, 04:04 AM
Quote from: Gangz on November 02, 2003, 02:31 AM
Yea im trieng to look for the packet it sends that makes it have that icon.I don't think it's possible to find but its work a shot.

Doesn't it make more sense that the Blizzard Rep's accounts are stored in a database that is located on the account server, which is at Blizzard Headquarters AND that when the Blizzard Rep logs into the Realm with his/her username and password the server flags that account name based on the information stored in the account server database with a Blizzard Icon rather than some cheese & HUGE security risk theory about secret packets being sent to authenticate such privileged users, like a Blizz. Rep.??
Title: Re:Rep icon ;D
Post by: Crim-Training on November 02, 2003, 07:11 AM
probably
Title: Re:Rep icon ;D
Post by: MyndFyre on November 02, 2003, 07:30 AM
Quote from: Paul on November 02, 2003, 04:04 AM

Doesn't it make more sense that the Blizzard Rep's accounts are stored in a database that is located on the account server, which is at Blizzard Headquarters AND that when the Blizzard Rep logs into the Realm with his/her username and password the server flags that account name based on the information stored in the account server database with a Blizzard Icon rather than some cheese & HUGE security risk theory about secret packets being sent to authenticate such privileged users, like a Blizz. Rep.??

I notice the intelligentsia (that is, the vL people) have been silent on this thread.
Title: Re:Rep icon ;D
Post by: iago on November 02, 2003, 08:20 AM
Quote from: Myndfyre on November 02, 2003, 07:30 AM
Quote from: Paul on November 02, 2003, 04:04 AM

Doesn't it make more sense that the Blizzard Rep's accounts are stored in a database that is located on the account server, which is at Blizzard Headquarters AND that when the Blizzard Rep logs into the Realm with his/her username and password the server flags that account name based on the information stored in the account server database with a Blizzard Icon rather than some cheese & HUGE security risk theory about secret packets being sent to authenticate such privileged users, like a Blizz. Rep.??

I notice the intelligentsia (that is, the vL people) have been silent on this thread.

*notes that the thread has only been up for 7 hours overnight.


I think being a blizzard rep is actually part of your account.  Some other rep can say, /setrep iago[vL] and from then on when I logged on wih iago[vL] I'd be a rep.  The only way to confirm this would be to guess a rep's password :)
Title: Re:Rep icon ;D
Post by: Skywing on November 02, 2003, 11:39 AM
Quote from: iago on November 02, 2003, 08:20 AM
Quote from: Myndfyre on November 02, 2003, 07:30 AM
Quote from: Paul on November 02, 2003, 04:04 AM

Doesn't it make more sense that the Blizzard Rep's accounts are stored in a database that is located on the account server, which is at Blizzard Headquarters AND that when the Blizzard Rep logs into the Realm with his/her username and password the server flags that account name based on the information stored in the account server database with a Blizzard Icon rather than some cheese & HUGE security risk theory about secret packets being sent to authenticate such privileged users, like a Blizz. Rep.??

I notice the intelligentsia (that is, the vL people) have been silent on this thread.

*notes that the thread has only been up for 7 hours overnight.


I think being a blizzard rep is actually part of your account.  Some other rep can say, /setrep iago[vL] and from then on when I logged on wih iago[vL] I'd be a rep.  The only way to confirm this would be to guess a rep's password :)
I've had access to a privileged account.  Access is controlled via username.
Title: Re:Rep icon ;D
Post by: Dyndrilliac on November 02, 2003, 01:19 PM
Well, PAul, yes, your idea is probably a much more realistic way of how things happen concerning the Rep Icon, and robably most of it's true, however it would be kind of disapointing to think that using bots you can fake so much information being sent to the server and not someway somehow fond an answer. Hope is the human races greatest strength and it's greatest weakness, and for that reason, Well, I just like my answer better :P.
Title: Re:Rep icon ;D
Post by: Paul on November 02, 2003, 02:05 PM
Quote from: UserLoser. on November 02, 2003, 01:55 PM
I always thought it was based on IP address to decide whether or not an account is 'privileged'

I'd be suprised if that were the case.
Title: Re:Rep icon ;D
Post by: Zakath on November 02, 2003, 03:43 PM
No, it is based on username. I've seen firsthand proof.
Title: As a comment on design merits ...
Post by: Kp on November 02, 2003, 04:44 PM
... basing it solely upon username is IMO not such a good idea, as the situation(s) alluded to herein point up.  They would have been better off to have it doubly bound; that is, certain accounts marked as "potential administrators," subject to the user possessing some additional hard-to-fake quality, such as coming off a special subnet or knowing an additional passphrase.
Title: Re:Rep icon ;D
Post by: Freeware on November 02, 2003, 07:37 PM
There is absolutely no way to get the Rep icon unless you guess the password to a rep account. Of course there is always the chance that the accounts could be 'locked' from anyone logging on besides specific computers.

yet another idiotic question by Gangz, seems that half the entire bot board is dominated by his stupid questions.

me thinks just dont let Gangz post any more topics   -1 for being the dumbest person here.
Title: Re:Rep icon ;D
Post by: Dyndrilliac on November 02, 2003, 08:04 PM
Freeware, that is of course your perogative, however, the fact remains - You do not know everything there is to know about this subject. Who's to say it's impossible? And, using your way, you couldd just bruteforce an administrative account, and packetlog it to see exactly what happens. And more often than not, I am fairly sure something other than "Oh, well since you logged on as a rep you magically and unexplainably got a cool icon, neat, lets go make fun of people that know less than us!" will occur.

K, thanks.
Title: Re:Rep icon ;D
Post by: Freeware on November 03, 2003, 06:15 PM
Quote from: Dyndrilliac on November 02, 2003, 08:04 PM
Freeware, that is of course your perogative, however, the fact remains - You do not know everything there is to know about this subject. Who's to say it's impossible? And, using your way, you couldd just bruteforce an administrative account, and packetlog it to see exactly what happens. And more often than not, I am fairly sure something other than "Oh, well since you logged on as a rep you magically and unexplainably got a cool icon, neat, lets go make fun of people that know less than us!" will occur.

K, thanks.

^ useless bungle of words that have no point

I never said it was impossible: There is absolutely no way to get the Rep icon unless you guess the password to a rep account.

I am almost 100% sure that even Battle.Net wouldnt make a Rep icon accessible clientside, even they probably arent that dumb. -1 to you for being as dumb as GanGz
Title: Re:Rep icon ;D
Post by: Dyndrilliac on November 03, 2003, 07:16 PM
Quote from: Freeware on November 03, 2003, 06:15 PM
Quote from: Dyndrilliac on November 02, 2003, 08:04 PM
Freeware, that is of course your perogative, however, the fact remains - You do not know everything there is to know about this subject. Who's to say it's impossible? And, using your way, you couldd just bruteforce an administrative account, and packetlog it to see exactly what happens. And more often than not, I am fairly sure something other than "Oh, well since you logged on as a rep you magically and unexplainably got a cool icon, neat, lets go make fun of people that know less than us!" will occur.

K, thanks.

^ useless bungle of words that have no point

I never said it was impossible: There is absolutely no way to get the Rep icon unless you guess the password to a rep account.

I am almost 100% sure that even Battle.Net wouldnt make a Rep icon accessible clientside, even they probably arent that dumb. -1 to you for being as dumb as GanGz

Lol - Have you tested this? "I am almost 100% sure" - I take it, no? And yes, you did say it's impossible to obtain a rep icon without having a working Account/Password. "There is absolutely no way" - Since you have a qualifier - This means it's impossible to do so unless the qualifier is reached - unless your just stupid and have no idea what your saying.

I personally remember a program that could change your Latency Icon to whtever you wished it to be, but it was clientsided.  Also, I find it hard that the aformentioned way is the only method possible - There is ALWAYS an alternative, whether it be right or wrong.

And personally - maybe you should read the rules of this forum? "no flaming or blatant stupidity" - Try and check your things on the way out...it's wrong for you or anyoneelse to tell ANYONE they are wrong, when: A) You have not thoroughly tested and exhausted all possible solutions, and B) Act superior to every other user because you have a superiorty complex, which by the way, you should have that looked into.

Furhter more - You never ever had to read this thread at all. Your mad because people are trying to answer a question, and help another human being witha  problem. You should be disgusted to walk the face of the earth. I hope you die of cancer and are hit by an oncoming truck while being transported to your burial site. You have no right whatsoever to make any absolute statments here.
Title: Re:Rep icon ;D
Post by: Paul on November 03, 2003, 09:41 PM
It's also ridiculous...  ;D
Title: Re:Rep icon ;D
Post by: Soul Taker on November 04, 2003, 02:51 AM
Of course you can make yourself have it client-side only, just send your client a flags update packet with the proper flag.  But... what's the point of that?
Title: Re:Rep icon ;D
Post by: Arta on November 04, 2003, 03:43 AM
In answer to the original question: For all practical purposes, this is not possible.

Please don't flame eachother. There's just no need to call people dumb.