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Programming => Battle.net Bot Development => Topic started by: Gangz on October 26, 2003, 03:59 AM

Title: Sorry Probably gettin anoyed of me
Post by: Gangz on October 26, 2003, 03:59 AM
Sorry if im annoying you guys with questions.Just trien to learn a lil bit...Does anyone know have a source that just connects to war3 withought all the extra stuff on it so i can try and learn to connections.
Title: Re:Sorry Probably gettin anoyed of me
Post by: iago on October 26, 2003, 06:52 AM
How do you connect to War3?  
Title: Re:Sorry Probably gettin anoyed of me
Post by: Yoni on October 26, 2003, 07:12 AM
What extra stuff?
Title: Re:Sorry Probably gettin anoyed of me
Post by: Stealth on October 26, 2003, 10:18 AM
Dare I say it? http://yoni.valhallalegends.com/BNLSProtocolSpec.txt is ... pretty much a 'source' with no extra stuff on it. Take a look, it's pretty straightforward.
Title: Re:Sorry Probably gettin anoyed of me
Post by: Freeware on October 26, 2003, 11:00 AM
Quote from: Gangz on October 26, 2003, 03:59 AM
Sorry if im annoying you guys with questions.Just trien to learn a lil bit...Does anyone know have a source that just connects to war3 withought all the extra stuff on it so i can try and learn to connections.

There is no NON-BNLS source code for war3, you must use BNLS.
Title: Re:Sorry Probably gettin anoyed of me
Post by: Skywing on October 26, 2003, 11:05 AM
Quote from: Freeware on October 26, 2003, 11:00 AM
Quote from: Gangz on October 26, 2003, 03:59 AM
Sorry if im annoying you guys with questions.Just trien to learn a lil bit...Does anyone know have a source that just connects to war3 withought all the extra stuff on it so i can try and learn to connections.

There is no NON-BNLS source code for war3, you must use BNLS.
Presumably Blizzard doesn't use BNLS for their Warcraft III clients.
Title: Re:Sorry Probably gettin anoyed of me
Post by: Freeware on October 26, 2003, 11:05 AM
Quote from: Skywing on October 26, 2003, 11:05 AM
Quote from: Freeware on October 26, 2003, 11:00 AM
Quote from: Gangz on October 26, 2003, 03:59 AM
Sorry if im annoying you guys with questions.Just trien to learn a lil bit...Does anyone know have a source that just connects to war3 withought all the extra stuff on it so i can try and learn to connections.

There is no NON-BNLS source code for war3, you must use BNLS.
Presumably Blizzard doesn't use BNLS for their Warcraft III clients.

lol  ;D - but presumably Blizzard doesn't publish their source code for the Warcraft III clients.
Title: Re:Sorry Probably gettin anoyed of me
Post by: Hazard on October 26, 2003, 11:07 AM
Just because it isn't public doen't mean that it does not exist. It might just be harder or impossible to acquire.
Title: Re:Sorry Probably gettin anoyed of me
Post by: Freeware on October 26, 2003, 11:09 AM
Quote from: Hazard on October 26, 2003, 11:07 AM
Just because it isn't public doen't mean that it does not exist. It might just be harder or impossible to acquire.

I guess you to follow the same examples as getting cdkeys, go infaltrate blizzard, get an ex-bnet programmer to help you, etc... Otherwise I dont think they will email you the source (i already tried).
Title: Re:Sorry Probably gettin anoyed of me
Post by: Hazard on October 26, 2003, 11:12 AM
For the love of God... please proofread your posts before clicking the "Post" button! Usage of legible spelling, grammar, and punctuation is also appreciated.
Title: Re:Sorry Probably gettin anoyed of me
Post by: iago on October 26, 2003, 05:43 PM
Blizzard should use some kind of BNLS system.. would make it harder to reverse their protocol and make a 3rd parter server ;)
Title: Re:Sorry Probably gettin anoyed of me
Post by: Spht on October 26, 2003, 06:17 PM
Quote from: iago on October 26, 2003, 05:43 PM
Blizzard should use some kind of BNLS system.. would make it harder to reverse their protocol and make a 3rd parter server ;)

Nah, then we'd just make use of their BNLS-like system.
Title: Re:Sorry Probably gettin anoyed of me
Post by: iago on October 27, 2003, 02:28 AM
Quote from: Spht on October 26, 2003, 06:17 PM
Quote from: iago on October 26, 2003, 05:43 PM
Blizzard should use some kind of BNLS system.. would make it harder to reverse their protocol and make a 3rd parter server ;)

Nah, then we'd just make use of their BNLS-like system.

Yeah, I thought of that.  But at least you wouldn't be able to make a pure bot :)
Title: Re:Sorry Probably gettin anoyed of me
Post by: Grok on October 27, 2003, 04:37 AM
Quote from: Freeware on October 26, 2003, 11:09 AM
Quote from: Hazard on October 26, 2003, 11:07 AM
Just because it isn't public doen't mean that it does not exist. It might just be harder or impossible to acquire.

I guess you to follow the same examples as getting cdkeys, go infaltrate blizzard, get an ex-bnet programmer to help you, etc... Otherwise I dont think they will email you the source (i already tried).

OR -- you could do what BlueDragonBOD did to acquire the nbbot source code from Blizzard.
Title: Re:Sorry Probably gettin anoyed of me
Post by: Skywing on October 27, 2003, 08:20 AM
Quote from: iago on October 27, 2003, 02:28 AM
Quote from: Spht on October 26, 2003, 06:17 PM
Quote from: iago on October 26, 2003, 05:43 PM
Blizzard should use some kind of BNLS system.. would make it harder to reverse their protocol and make a 3rd parter server ;)

Nah, then we'd just make use of their BNLS-like system.

Yeah, I thought of that.  But at least you wouldn't be able to make a pure bot :)
That doesn't really make a whole lot of sense - what are you defining a "pure" bot as?
Title: Re:Sorry Probably gettin anoyed of me
Post by: iago on October 27, 2003, 08:49 AM
A bot that connects directly to the server on its own.  I talked myself into a corner the first time I mentioned it, so leave me alone! :P
Title: Re:Sorry Probably gettin anoyed of me
Post by: Skywing on October 27, 2003, 10:32 AM
Quote from: iago on October 27, 2003, 08:49 AM
A bot that connects directly to the server on its own.  I talked myself into a corner the first time I mentioned it, so leave me alone! :P
I would consider the authorization server part of the Battle.net login system and not third-party if your situation were true.
Title: Re:Sorry Probably gettin anoyed of me
Post by: iago on October 27, 2003, 12:27 PM
Quote from: Skywing on October 27, 2003, 10:32 AM
Quote from: iago on October 27, 2003, 08:49 AM
A bot that connects directly to the server on its own.  I talked myself into a corner the first time I mentioned it, so leave me alone! :P
I would consider the authorization server part of the Battle.net login system and not third-party if your situation were true.

Like I said, I stopped making sense.  :P
Title: Re:Sorry Probably gettin anoyed of me
Post by: Skywing on October 27, 2003, 01:40 PM
Quote from: Grok on October 27, 2003, 04:37 AM
Quote from: Freeware on October 26, 2003, 11:09 AM
Quote from: Hazard on October 26, 2003, 11:07 AM
Just because it isn't public doen't mean that it does not exist. It might just be harder or impossible to acquire.

I guess you to follow the same examples as getting cdkeys, go infaltrate blizzard, get an ex-bnet programmer to help you, etc... Otherwise I dont think they will email you the source (i already tried).

OR -- you could do what BlueDragonBOD did to acquire the nbbot source code from Blizzard.

Bringing up ancient Battle.net history, eh? :p
Title: Re:Sorry Probably gettin anoyed of me
Post by: Grok on October 27, 2003, 05:09 PM
Quote from: Skywing on October 27, 2003, 01:40 PM
Quote from: Grok on October 27, 2003, 04:37 AM
Quote from: Freeware on October 26, 2003, 11:09 AM
Quote from: Hazard on October 26, 2003, 11:07 AM
Just because it isn't public doen't mean that it does not exist. It might just be harder or impossible to acquire.

I guess you to follow the same examples as getting cdkeys, go infaltrate blizzard, get an ex-bnet programmer to help you, etc... Otherwise I dont think they will email you the source (i already tried).

OR -- you could do what BlueDragonBOD did to acquire the nbbot source code from Blizzard.

Bringing up ancient Battle.net history, eh? :p

The reference seems to be lost on everyone but you and I.
Title: Re:Sorry Probably gettin anoyed of me
Post by: Skywing on October 27, 2003, 06:42 PM
Quote from: Grok on October 27, 2003, 05:09 PM
Quote from: Skywing on October 27, 2003, 01:40 PM
Quote from: Grok on October 27, 2003, 04:37 AM
Quote from: Freeware on October 26, 2003, 11:09 AM
Quote from: Hazard on October 26, 2003, 11:07 AM
Just because it isn't public doen't mean that it does not exist. It might just be harder or impossible to acquire.

I guess you to follow the same examples as getting cdkeys, go infaltrate blizzard, get an ex-bnet programmer to help you, etc... Otherwise I dont think they will email you the source (i already tried).

OR -- you could do what BlueDragonBOD did to acquire the nbbot source code from Blizzard.

Bringing up ancient Battle.net history, eh? :p

The reference seems to be lost on everyone but you and I.
I wouldn't be surprised if referencing NBBot would be lost on most people here.
Title: Re:Sorry Probably gettin anoyed of me
Post by: iago on October 27, 2003, 06:56 PM
Quote from: Skywing on October 27, 2003, 06:42 PM
Quote from: Grok on October 27, 2003, 05:09 PM
Quote from: Skywing on October 27, 2003, 01:40 PM
Quote from: Grok on October 27, 2003, 04:37 AM
Quote from: Freeware on October 26, 2003, 11:09 AM
Quote from: Hazard on October 26, 2003, 11:07 AM
Just because it isn't public doen't mean that it does not exist. It might just be harder or impossible to acquire.

I guess you to follow the same examples as getting cdkeys, go infaltrate blizzard, get an ex-bnet programmer to help you, etc... Otherwise I dont think they will email you the source (i already tried).

OR -- you could do what BlueDragonBOD did to acquire the nbbot source code from Blizzard.

Bringing up ancient Battle.net history, eh? :p

The reference seems to be lost on everyone but you and I.
I wouldn't be surprised if referencing NBBot would be lost on most people here.

I know what NBBot is, but the rest is lost on me :)
Title: I know...
Post by: Kp on October 27, 2003, 09:14 PM
but I see no reason to spoil the suspense.
Title: Re:Sorry Probably gettin anoyed of me
Post by: CrAz3D on October 28, 2003, 11:55 AM
Quote from: Grok on October 27, 2003, 04:37 AM
OR -- you could do what BlueDragonBOD did to acquire the nbbot source code from Blizzard.

So what exactly DID BlueDragonBOD do to get the NBBot source?
Title: Re:Sorry Probably gettin anoyed of me
Post by: Skywing on October 28, 2003, 11:59 AM
Quote from: CrAz3D on October 28, 2003, 11:55 AM
Quote from: Grok on October 27, 2003, 04:37 AM
OR -- you could do what BlueDragonBOD did to acquire the nbbot source code from Blizzard.

So what exactly DID BlueDragonBOD do to get the NBBot source?
That's a very good question with a very interesting answer.
Title: Re:Sorry Probably gettin anoyed of me
Post by: CrAz3D on October 28, 2003, 12:07 PM
Care to share?
Title: Re:Sorry Probably gettin anoyed of me
Post by: Grok on October 28, 2003, 01:29 PM
It remains one of the most interesting segments of battle.net history.  A story well-worth hearing.
Title: Re:Sorry Probably gettin anoyed of me
Post by: Adron on October 29, 2003, 02:02 PM
Well, at least it was cleverer than psy.