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Programming => Web Development => Topic started by: -Death- on October 15, 2003, 07:25 PM

Title: Suggestions
Post by: -Death- on October 15, 2003, 07:25 PM
I know some html but not much. Just wodering if there were any programs worth getting or any kinda tutorials that stand out to you. And is there a class on learning .php if there is when is the next class.
Thanks for the Help.

;D Death ;D
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: SNiFFeR on October 15, 2003, 07:47 PM
Why don't you try and learn HTML..?

Once you grasp the concept of HTML you can advance, If you don't understand HTML I doubt you'd understand PHP.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: -Death- on October 16, 2003, 05:00 PM
Well you got any suggestions for being better at html.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: SNiFFeR on October 16, 2003, 06:29 PM
Read a book..?
Look online..?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=learn+HTML (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=learn+HTML)
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: Banana fanna fo fanna on October 16, 2003, 07:24 PM
xhtml+css is the future. learning old html will get you in bad habits.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: Grok on October 16, 2003, 07:58 PM
Quote from: St0rm.iD on October 16, 2003, 07:24 PM
xhtml+css is the future. learning old html will get you in bad habits.

XHTML+CSS is dead.

XML+XSLT is the present and near future.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: -Death- on October 16, 2003, 09:18 PM
I think a Google Search would best solve my problem?
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: Grok on October 16, 2003, 10:32 PM
Quote from: -Death- on October 16, 2003, 09:18 PM
I think a Google Search would best solve my problem?

We're supposed to know what you think?
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: Thing on October 16, 2003, 11:45 PM
Grok loses mind reading skills.  Film at 11.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: -Death- on October 17, 2003, 08:15 AM
Yeah ok I am using Google.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: Banana fanna fo fanna on October 17, 2003, 07:11 PM
Quote from: Grok on October 16, 2003, 07:58 PM
Quote from: St0rm.iD on October 16, 2003, 07:24 PM
xhtml+css is the future. learning old html will get you in bad habits.

XHTML+CSS is dead.

XML+XSLT is the present and near future.

Eww@extra typing for me.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: WinSocks on October 22, 2003, 06:50 PM
XML is fun, i'm learning that right now in Class for the MCSD Certifications woo hoo.

Hey Grok, i'm just curious about what Certification did you go for? MCSD or MCAD?
I hear that the 70-310 Exam is fairly harder than the 70-320 exam, well thats what i hear from my friends that have taken them.

Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: Banana fanna fo fanna on October 22, 2003, 07:19 PM
XML is a Bad Thing. It has zero reason to exist when many better technologies are already implemented.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: Grok on October 22, 2003, 07:26 PM
Quote from: LoRD`NiKKoN on October 22, 2003, 06:50 PM
XML is fun, i'm learning that right now in Class for the MCSD Certifications woo hoo.

Hey Grok, i'm just curious about what Certification did you go for? MCSD or MCAD?
I hear that the 70-310 Exam is fairly harder than the 70-320 exam, well thats what i hear from my friends that have taken them.



I'm getting the retiring MCSD before it expires in July 2004.  Most programmers are moving from VB6 to .NET, but most existing applications are written in VB6.  There will be a zillion consulting opportunities for me to fix all these old programs, and thus plenty of money.

Once I get that one nailed, I'll complete my MCDBA and then worry about MCSD.NET certification.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: Banana fanna fo fanna on October 22, 2003, 07:33 PM
Grok, what certifications should I get?
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: Hitmen on October 22, 2003, 08:00 PM
Everyone trusts a hacker (http://www.eccouncil.org/CEH.htm), although that's probably not what you're looking for :P
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: WinSocks on October 23, 2003, 07:53 AM
Storm it depends what you want to get into. the MCSD is for Web Based Applications and Databases, SQL Server 2k, SQL ANSI, XML Web Services, you also need to know if you want to do the newer exams in vb.net or C#.net. Not sure of all the Exams but i can look them up for you if you want.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: Grok on October 23, 2003, 08:02 AM
Quote from: St0rm.iD on October 22, 2003, 07:33 PM
Grok, what certifications should I get?

Masters degree from MIT.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: Banana fanna fo fanna on October 23, 2003, 02:03 PM
Isn't that the hardest school in the country to get in to? I heard it's harder than Harvard.

I do take courses there and I have a few "inside connections."
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: Grok on October 23, 2003, 04:20 PM
It's just my opinion based on what I know about you, which includes knowing the type of opportunities available to you, your ability, and so on.  Forget 'certifications', they're for guys like me who don't have a college degree.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: dxoigmn on October 23, 2003, 04:46 PM
Quote from: St0rm.iD on October 23, 2003, 02:03 PM
Isn't that the hardest school in the country to get in to? I heard it's harder than Harvard.

I do take courses there and I have a few "inside connections."

Harvard's overrated.  Princeton, I believe, is the hardest school to get into; atleast they are the most selective.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: Tuberload on October 23, 2003, 04:47 PM
I would still much rather go to MIT.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: dxoigmn on October 23, 2003, 04:49 PM
Quote from: Tuberload on October 23, 2003, 04:47 PM
I would still much rather go to MIT.

Undergraduate career doesn't really matter that much.  Graduate career does.  That's the opinion I have formed.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: Tuberload on October 23, 2003, 07:46 PM
I am more interested in a military/CIA/NSA type of career, so a degree from MIT would be ideal in my situation.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: Gremlin on October 23, 2003, 08:20 PM
Most people don't get into the CIA/NSA unless ure either in the Military, or State Police. The only other people they have are hackers. And you got to be one good Hacker.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: Tuberload on October 23, 2003, 08:31 PM
I'm going into the marines, so I already have it planned, but this is way off topic.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: Yoni on October 24, 2003, 01:26 AM
Quote from: Gremlin on October 23, 2003, 08:20 PM
Most people don't get into the CIA/NSA unless ure either in the Military, or State Police. The only other people they have are hackers. And you got to be one good Hacker.
If you're a very good mathematician, you have excellent chances to get into the NSA. They employ more mathematicians than any other organization in the (USA? World?).
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: Grok on October 24, 2003, 08:52 AM
It has been said that the NSA employs over 90% of the world's cryptoanalysts.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: Gremlin on October 24, 2003, 02:02 PM
The building the math crypt people are in is like a mile down the street from the NSA Building. We had to be like check before we go into the buildings. Plus when we drive by and your near the building they listen to everything. So there for they employee more Specialty people then they do Math People. Not that being good at math doesn't help cause it does.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: MrRaza on November 01, 2003, 04:53 PM
I'm not really the one to point out spelling mistakes or grammer errors, i just don't like reading posts 2 or 3 times over, just to get the grasp of what your trying to say. So, do yourself a favour, either type out your posts in MS Word or have a better eye for this type of thing.

It also tends to make yourself sound or seem smarter and more professional.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: Grok on November 01, 2003, 06:53 PM
Moot.  He's banned.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: Gremlin on November 02, 2003, 02:23 PM
U didn't ban me Grok I am still here!!
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: Skywing on November 02, 2003, 02:27 PM
Quote from: Gremlin on November 02, 2003, 02:23 PM
U didn't ban me Grok I am still here!!
I am just amazed at your stupidity in doing that.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: Adron on November 02, 2003, 03:13 PM
See now how it is good not to ban by name!

I wonder who yoshisakan is though.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: Skywing on November 02, 2003, 09:31 PM
Quote from: Adron on November 02, 2003, 03:13 PM
See now how it is good not to ban by name!

I wonder who yoshisakan is though.
I recall seeing that person drop by in the channel a few times, but not saying anything particularly useful.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: Adron on November 04, 2003, 04:44 PM
Ah. Covered by same ip ban mask, but hasn't posted in some time.