What are some ways the RIAA can cacth you downloading music?
Can they cacth you downloading music on kazaa lite?
Can they cacth you downloading music on internet web pages?
Is there something that can hide your ip from the RIAA so they wont cacth you?
They way I believe the RIAA does it is by searching for random users and downloading music files off of there computer, then logging the username and ip. By doing this, the user has successfully "shared" music, illegally. Thus, having done this, RIAA can now sue the user.
Sounds more like the user can sue the RIAA for hacking and unlawful breaking and entry into their computer systems, theft of copyrighted material, and so forth.
Justice will prevail, right?
Quote from: Grok on September 28, 2003, 11:12 PM
Sounds more like the user can sue the RIAA for hacking and unlawful breaking and entry into their computer systems, theft of copyrighted material, and so forth.
Well not all of the time, lets say they are downloading our music from Kazaa (which is a P2P network). Then again the makers of Kazaa can sue the RIAA (I hope).
They can and they are.
Basically they search for files and record everyone's IP who reports the result back to them.
Do what I do.. disable sharing and move to Canada! .. though, one or the other should work :)
Just don't let word of that get out :)
What, that you live in Canada? =P
No, the part about not sharing :)
QuoteWell not all of the time, lets say they are downloading our music from Kazaa (which is a P2P network). Then again the makers of Kazaa can sue the RIAA (I hope).
http://forum.valhallalegends.com/phpbbs/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=2835
I believe the RIAA has a crystal ball they use to crack down on media pirates. The Onion supports my theory.
Quote from: Grok on September 28, 2003, 11:12 PM
Sounds more like the user can sue the RIAA for hacking and unlawful breaking and entry into their computer systems, theft of copyrighted material, and so forth.
No, noone can sue the RIAA. They're godly.
Quote from: Yoni on October 03, 2003, 11:28 AM
Quote from: Grok on September 28, 2003, 11:12 PM
Sounds more like the user can sue the RIAA for hacking and unlawful breaking and entry into their computer systems, theft of copyrighted material, and so forth.
No, noone can sue the RIAA. They're godly.
I don't see how the RIAA taking files you have specificly set aside to be shared is theft or unlawful breaking and entering. And they're stealing from who? Themselves? Last time I checked that's not illegal :-\
Quote from: Hitmen on October 03, 2003, 01:55 PM
Quote from: Yoni on October 03, 2003, 11:28 AM
Quote from: Grok on September 28, 2003, 11:12 PM
Sounds more like the user can sue the RIAA for hacking and unlawful breaking and entry into their computer systems, theft of copyrighted material, and so forth.
No, noone can sue the RIAA. They're godly.
I don't see how the RIAA taking files you have specificly set aside to be shared is theft or unlawful breaking and entering. And they're stealing from who? Themselves? Last time I checked that's not illegal :-\
Read the article that was linked there.. that's not what they're suing for at all.
I was replying to what Grok/Yoni said. That article has nothing to do with what they or what I said.
You were talking about the reason that RIAA was suing people, and you got the reason wrong. They're suing for Breach-of-contract for illegally modifying Kazaa's software.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/biztech/09/24/kazaa.sues.ap/index.html
No, I was saying that the things that Grok said arn't illegal, what Yoni said seemed to me as he was saying that they are, hence my saying so. *I* never said anything about why they sued the RIAA :P
*Note: Grok was talking about user sue -> RIAA not RIAA -> user*
Quote from: Hitmen on October 03, 2003, 01:55 PM
Quote from: Yoni on October 03, 2003, 11:28 AM
Quote from: Grok on September 28, 2003, 11:12 PM
Sounds more like the user can sue the RIAA for hacking and unlawful breaking and entry into their computer systems, theft of copyrighted material, and so forth.
No, noone can sue the RIAA. They're godly.
I don't see how the RIAA taking files you have specificly set aside to be shared is theft or unlawful breaking and entering. And they're stealing from who? Themselves? Last time I checked that's not illegal :-\
This is the classic internet break-in argument all over again. If you put a server on the internet, and put files on it, then isn't it OBVIOUS that you're intending to share those files with whomever can get to them, as allowed by the software?
Then explain why people who find these files and download them are called hackers and are sued as such for unlawful entry into a computer system? They get prosecuted because their entry was not authorized, despite the files being "unprotected".
The RIAA would be no different under the law. If I put files out there for iago to have, and even if I didn't label them, but I told iago they were for him, then anyone else who entered my server and took files could be subject to prosecution for unlawful entry.
When the RIAA does this, the 4th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution demands that they be treated equally under the law.
Hope this helps.
Where are these files you speak of? They're for me, aren't they? :-(