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Programming => Battle.net Bot Development => Topic started by: soccerist on August 28, 2003, 01:31 PM

Title: When is BnetDocs getting back on?
Post by: soccerist on August 28, 2003, 01:31 PM
I'm making a Linux C/C++ -based bot.  I've found your site most useful in the past.  Just wondering when you'll get your server issues fixed, or maybe if you could change the host to your site.  Thanks Arta.
Title: Re:When is BnetDocs getting back on?
Post by: FlAsH on August 29, 2003, 04:33 AM
Yes, i was wondering the same, maybe you could create a html backup for when shit happens to it, since it seemingly happens alot.
Title: Re:When is BnetDocs getting back on?
Post by: soccerist on August 29, 2003, 12:29 PM
Well, I think he wants the system managed with users so that an unknown person can't abuse the service.  Or maybe it's so we can do posts.  A regular html site WOULD be nice though.   ;D
Title: Re:When is BnetDocs getting back on?
Post by: Hazard on August 29, 2003, 12:40 PM
Want one? Write one.

!~!HaZaRD!~!
Title: Re:When is BnetDocs getting back on?
Post by: WinSocks on August 29, 2003, 02:47 PM
why don't you just copy and past the stuff in there as txt files for future reference instead of relying on other people and their services... and then bitching about how you can't get anything free anymore for the time being.

Don't be relyant on computers THEY ARE EVIL!!
Title: Re:When is BnetDocs getting back on?
Post by: FlAsH on August 31, 2003, 09:22 PM
Quote from: soccerist on August 29, 2003, 12:29 PM
Well, I think he wants the system managed with users so that an unknown person can't abuse the service.  Or maybe it's so we can do posts.  A regular html site WOULD be nice though.   ;D

I really don't mind having it managed with users, but when you are trying to provide a service to the public, and you have a server which can't seem to handle what he would like to do, then what you like to do differs from what you SHOULD do.

Quote from: LoRD`NiKKoN on August 29, 2003, 02:47 PM
why don't you just copy and past the stuff in there as txt files for future reference instead of relying on other people and their services... and then bitching about how you can't get anything free anymore for the time being.

Don't be relyant on computers THEY ARE EVIL!!

It's alittle late for that now isn't it :(
Title: Re:When is BnetDocs getting back on?
Post by: WinSocks on August 31, 2003, 11:20 PM
not for me i have it all down on in txt files on my comp, i always like to think ahead about possible problems such as what happened.
Title: Re:When is BnetDocs getting back on?
Post by: Camel on September 01, 2003, 12:24 AM
Quote from: LoRD`NiKKoN on August 31, 2003, 11:20 PM
not for me i have it all down on in txt files on my comp, i always like to think ahead about possible problems such as what happened.

You should publish it, with Arta's permission of course. :)
Title: The problem:
Post by: Kp on September 01, 2003, 12:41 AM
The Valhalla server only has a PHP front-end to bnetdocs.  All the data is still retrieved from Arta's computer on an as-needed basis.  So when he goes offline, so does bnetdocs.
Title: Re:The problem:
Post by: FlAsH on September 01, 2003, 03:24 AM
Quote from: Kp on September 01, 2003, 12:41 AM
The Valhalla server only has a PHP front-end to bnetdocs.  All the data is still retrieved from Arta's computer on an as-needed basis.  So when he goes offline, so does bnetdocs.

Has anyone ever stopped to think about how dumb a concept that is? :-\
Title: Re:The problem:
Post by: Grok on September 01, 2003, 08:34 AM
Quote from: FlAsH on September 01, 2003, 03:24 AM
Quote from: Kp on September 01, 2003, 12:41 AM
The Valhalla server only has a PHP front-end to bnetdocs.  All the data is still retrieved from Arta's computer on an as-needed basis.  So when he goes offline, so does bnetdocs.

Has anyone ever stopped to think about how dumb a concept that is? :-\

Distributed computing?  Yes, its the dumbest thing since multiprocessing.
Title: Re:The problem:
Post by: Hazard on September 01, 2003, 08:51 AM
Quote from: Grok on September 01, 2003, 08:34 AM
Distributed computing?  Yes, its the dumbest thing since multiprocessing.

+1 to Grok. A coy remark as usual.

!~!HaZaRD!~!
Title: Re:The problem:
Post by: Adron on September 01, 2003, 11:21 AM
Quote from: Grok on September 01, 2003, 08:34 AM
Distributed computing?  Yes, its the dumbest thing since multiprocessing.

Indeed, when everyone knows that a chain is only as strong as its weakest link, why add links to chains?
Title: Re:The problem:
Post by: FlAsH on September 01, 2003, 05:59 PM
Quote from: Adron on September 01, 2003, 11:21 AM
Quote from: Grok on September 01, 2003, 08:34 AM
Distributed computing?  Yes, its the dumbest thing since multiprocessing.

Indeed, when everyone knows that a chain is only as strong as its weakest link, why add links to chains?

Perhaps making sure the chain has no weak links before you add to it, (get a better system :-\)
Title: Re:When is BnetDocs getting back on?
Post by: Arta on September 01, 2003, 06:59 PM
My server has not been down at all. BnetDocs broke when the subdomain bnetdocs.valhallalegends.com was added. I don't know why, and perhaps it's just a coincidence, but there were no code changes - to my knowledge, the subdomain was the only thing that's changed. I don't really understand why. I've asked someone to look into it but no one seems to have as yet. I've reviewed the code thoroughly, and it's functioning perfectly on my test server, so it's either a server bug or misconfiguration. I'm not really sure what more I can do.
Title: Re:When is BnetDocs getting back on?
Post by: Hazard on September 01, 2003, 07:02 PM
Quote from: Arta[vL] on September 01, 2003, 06:59 PM
My server has not been down at all. BnetDocs broke when the subdomain bnetdocs.valhallalegends.com was added. I don't know why, and perhaps it's just a coincidence, but there were no code changes - to my knowledge, the subdomain was the only thing that's changed. I don't really understand why. I've asked someone to look into it but no one seems to have as yet. I've reviewed the code thoroughly, and it's functioning perfectly on my test server, so it's either a server bug or misconfiguration. I'm not really sure what more I can do.

This is how I see it. *Arta* offers his time and resources to produce a "library" of sorts for programming and development. If people don't like how its run they can do it themselves.

!~!HaZaRD!~!
Title: Re:When is BnetDocs getting back on?
Post by: Camel on September 01, 2003, 08:35 PM
Arta, why not just host bnetdocs yourself?

[edit] BTW, you might try checking the PHP error logs/turning error reporting on; in my experience with php, a totally blank page usually means error reporting is off and something went wrong.
http://www.php.net/error-reporting (http://www.php.net/error-reporting)
Title: Re:When is BnetDocs getting back on?
Post by: Arta on September 02, 2003, 11:07 AM
Yes, I'm aware. Errors are intentionally turned off as a security measure. I don't want to host it myself, partially because I don't have much upstream, and partially because I don't feel like telling every tom dick and harry my IP address :)
Title: Re:When is BnetDocs getting back on?
Post by: iago on September 02, 2003, 12:09 PM
Perhaps you can have mirrors on different servers, in case one goes down?
[edit] If it would help, I'd mirror it.. my upstream is decent :)


There should be a seperate forum for people complaining about how Arta isn't helping them good enough :)
Title: Re:When is BnetDocs getting back on?
Post by: FlAsH on September 02, 2003, 07:02 PM
I also emailed arta offering him a backup host, and i haven't been contacted yet, so my guess is he isn't open to backups :-\

QuoteMy server has not been down at all. BnetDocs broke when the subdomain bnetdocs.valhallalegends.com was added. I don't know why, and perhaps it's just a coincidence, but there were no code changes - to my knowledge, the subdomain was the only thing that's changed. I don't really understand why. I've asked someone to look into it but no one seems to have as yet. I've reviewed the code thoroughly, and it's functioning perfectly on my test server, so it's either a server bug or misconfiguration. I'm not really sure what more I can do.

Have you tried removing that subdomain? (since it seems to be the cause of the problem)

Quotenot for me i have it all down on in txt files on my comp, i always like to think ahead about possible problems such as what happened.

perhaps you can send me these?
Title: Re:When is BnetDocs getting back on?
Post by: FLiPPY_ on September 02, 2003, 07:57 PM
QuoteThis is how I see it. Adron offers his time and resources to produce a "library" of sorts for programming and development. If people don't like how its run they can do it themselves.
Don't you mean Arta..? Im confused lol :P
Title: Re:When is BnetDocs getting back on?
Post by: FlAsH on September 02, 2003, 08:12 PM
Quote from: FLiPPY_ on September 02, 2003, 07:57 PM
QuoteThis is how I see it. Adron offers his time and resources to produce a "library" of sorts for programming and development. If people don't like how its run they can do it themselves.
Don't you mean Arta..? Im confused lol :P

Yes, I believe thats what he meant.

QuoteThis is how I see it. Adron offers his time and resources to produce a "library" of sorts for programming and development. If people don't like how its run they can do it themselves.

it isn't that we have problems with how it's run, it's the fact that more often then not, it doesn't run.
Title: Re:When is BnetDocs getting back on?
Post by: Soul Taker on September 02, 2003, 08:18 PM
Until that last post, every post on this page was edited.  Makes me wonder how much sleep you guys get.
Title: Re:When is BnetDocs getting back on?
Post by: Adron on September 03, 2003, 04:44 PM
Wheeee, I get free credits :P

Anyway, if there's a problem with bnetdocs still, due to some misconfiguration, maybe Arta could tell me some time that would be good for him and we could look into it?
Title: Re:When is BnetDocs getting back on?
Post by: FlAsH on September 03, 2003, 09:14 PM
Is it just totally gone now?
Title: Re:When is BnetDocs getting back on?
Post by: Hazard on September 03, 2003, 09:27 PM
Quote from: FLiPPY_ on September 02, 2003, 07:57 PM
QuoteThis is how I see it. Adron offers his time and resources to produce a "library" of sorts for programming and development. If people don't like how its run they can do it themselves.
Don't you mean Arta..? Im confused lol :P

Yes I do I apologize for the error on my part.
Title: Re:When is BnetDocs getting back on?
Post by: WinSocks on September 05, 2003, 07:28 PM
Flash it's gone till Arta fixes his Misconfiguration Bug/Error he got :\

If Arta is agreeable i will post it up as a same php based site to access the information.  ;)

But if not then i will just enojy it to myself :D
Title: Re:When is BnetDocs getting back on?
Post by: Arta on September 06, 2003, 08:25 AM
I appreciate the offers of mirrors and backup hosts but I can't accept them at present. Because so much of the information on BnetDocs is private I can't risk letting it into the hands of a third party. Thanks for the offers though! As I said, I do appreciate it.

Adron: I should be around tonight and tomorrow, and the day after, and uhm.. most of the time, really :) I'll poke ou on MSN at some point.
Title: Re:When is BnetDocs getting back on?
Post by: Adron on September 06, 2003, 10:39 AM
Quote from: Arta[vL] on September 06, 2003, 08:25 AM
Adron: I should be around tonight and tomorrow, and the day after, and uhm.. most of the time, really :) I'll poke ou on MSN at some point.

I've looked for you at various times last weekend and this week actually. I had an unrelated question. But ok, poke me when you want help. I'll possibly be gr gaming if you get no response.
Title: Re:When is BnetDocs getting back on?
Post by: Camel on September 06, 2003, 05:09 PM
Quote from: Arta[vL] on September 06, 2003, 08:25 AMI appreciate the offers of mirrors and backup hosts but I can't accept them at present. Because so much of the information on BnetDocs is private I can't risk letting it into the hands of a third party. Thanks for the offers though! As I said, I do appreciate it.

Two solutions come to mind:
1) Make a copy with only the public info.
2) Use lycos -- I believe they are supporting PHP now.
Title: Re:When is BnetDocs getting back on?
Post by: Arta on September 06, 2003, 07:22 PM
Quote from: Adron on September 06, 2003, 10:39 AM
I've looked for you at various times last weekend and this week actually.

I was away for a few days, but I'm back now.
Title: Re:When is BnetDocs getting back on?
Post by: FlAsH on September 08, 2003, 03:21 AM
Quote from: Arta[vL] on September 06, 2003, 08:25 AM
1) Make a copy with only the public info.

Indeed, that seems like the best idea, that or make the private info public :)
Title: Re:When is BnetDocs getting back on?
Post by: iago on September 10, 2003, 08:46 PM
Isn't there some rule against advertising here? :-P
Title: Re:When is BnetDocs getting back on?
Post by: Camel on September 10, 2003, 09:19 PM
Quote from: iago on September 10, 2003, 08:46 PMIsn't there some rule against advertising here? :-P
I believe it is simply frowned upon, not prohibited.
Title: Re:When is BnetDocs getting back on?
Post by: iago on September 11, 2003, 08:47 AM
/me frowns
Title: Re:When is BnetDocs getting back on?
Post by: Banana fanna fo fanna on September 11, 2003, 02:36 PM
Why was it deleted...?
Title: Re:When is BnetDocs getting back on?
Post by: hismajesty on September 11, 2003, 02:55 PM
Quote from: St0rm.iD on September 11, 2003, 02:36 PM
Why was it deleted...?

I was wondering the same thing
Title: Re:When is BnetDocs getting back on?
Post by: Adron on September 11, 2003, 05:25 PM
Why was what deleted?
Title: Re:When is BnetDocs getting back on?
Post by: hismajesty on September 11, 2003, 05:27 PM
The link to their bnet docs ripoff within this thread.
Title: Re:When is BnetDocs getting back on?
Post by: Banana fanna fo fanna on September 11, 2003, 05:28 PM
wiki.ik0ns.com :)
Title: Re:When is BnetDocs getting back on?
Post by: hismajesty on September 11, 2003, 06:13 PM
Yep they didn't delete the other post...And even if they did..I bookmarked it.  ;D
Title: Re:When is BnetDocs getting back on?
Post by: Banana fanna fo fanna on September 11, 2003, 06:52 PM
We encourge people to contribute information/sample code to it :)
Title: Re:When is BnetDocs getting back on?
Post by: hismajesty on September 11, 2003, 07:30 PM
Quote from: St0rm.iD on September 11, 2003, 06:52 PM
We encourge people to contribute information/sample code to it :)

I will later. Right now I'm busy ripping my hair out over a coding block I've had since last night.  >:(
Title: Re:When is BnetDocs getting back on?
Post by: FlAsH on September 21, 2003, 04:30 PM
I think we can safely say bnetdocs is gone for good.
Title: Re:When is BnetDocs getting back on?
Post by: Banana fanna fo fanna on September 21, 2003, 04:55 PM
We won't miss it :)
Title: Re:When is BnetDocs getting back on?
Post by: Arta on September 23, 2003, 11:08 PM
I'm still trying to get it fixed. I'm also lazy, though. Should be back some time this week.