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Programming => General Programming => Topic started by: Styth on August 02, 2003, 01:51 AM

Title: Point / Seriously!
Post by: Styth on August 02, 2003, 01:51 AM
Okay. What's the point in me learning Visual Basic it sucks I want to become pro programmer im going to learn C++ any1 knows where I can read some tutorials and download what I need while I save money to buy the books. Is Cup Head giving C++ classes also? Or only Visual Basic Classes? I'm really dedicated to learn. Any one wants to help?
Title: Re:Point / Seriously!
Post by: Adron on August 02, 2003, 05:29 AM
If you think VB sucks, don't learn it. Check Course Information: C++ 101 (http://forum.valhallalegends.com/phpbbs/index.php?board=24;action=display;threadid=1647) for info on a beginner C++ class....
Title: Re:Point / Seriously!
Post by: Camel on August 02, 2003, 01:52 PM
VB doesn't suck, it's just a bad teaching tool for higher level programming.
Title: Re:Point / Seriously!
Post by: Grok on August 02, 2003, 04:13 PM
Quote from: Camel on August 02, 2003, 01:52 PM
VB doesn't suck, it's just a bad teaching tool for higher level programming.

You base this on what?
Title: Re:Point / Seriously!
Post by: DarkMinion on August 02, 2003, 05:02 PM
Who says you can't be a professional programmer using VB?
Title: Re:Point / Seriously!
Post by: Styth on August 02, 2003, 08:22 PM
I did not mean it like that. . . I Signed up for CupHeads Class.
Title: Re:Point / Seriously!
Post by: Raven on August 04, 2003, 10:08 AM
VB is a great language to start programming in, and sort of get your mind to think with a problem-solving/programming approach. Don't listen to all those sup3r 1337 c0d3rZ who claim "VB is for n00bs".
Title: Re:Point / Seriously!
Post by: CupHead on August 04, 2003, 10:35 AM
I'd like to see some easily (and rapidly) developed, high-quality DCOM components in C++.   ;)
Title: Re:Point / Seriously!
Post by: Skywing on August 04, 2003, 12:30 PM
Quote from: CupHead on August 04, 2003, 10:35 AM
I'd like to see some easily (and rapidly) developed, high-quality DCOM components in C++.   ;)
I see you've never heard of ATL.
Title: Re:Point / Seriously!
Post by: Raven on August 04, 2003, 12:57 PM
Quote from: Skywing on August 04, 2003, 12:30 PM
Quote from: CupHead on August 04, 2003, 10:35 AM
I'd like to see some easily (and rapidly) developed, high-quality DCOM components in C++.   ;)
I see you've never heard of ATL.

Or perhaps COM+ as well (the + means better! ;) ).
Title: Re:Point / Seriously!
Post by: Grok on August 04, 2003, 06:04 PM
Quote from: Raven on August 04, 2003, 12:57 PM
Quote from: Skywing on August 04, 2003, 12:30 PM
Quote from: CupHead on August 04, 2003, 10:35 AM
I'd like to see some easily (and rapidly) developed, high-quality DCOM components in C++.   ;)
I see you've never heard of ATL.

Or perhaps COM+ as well (the + means better! ;) ).

COM+ is not a language-dependent mechanism.  It is the replacement for what was once DCOM, and can be implemented in any language.

Having developed both ATL DLLs and VB COM DLLs, I can profess to the untouchable speed for which it can be done in Visual Basic 6.0 Professional or Enterprise.  While my ATL skills are considerably weaker than with my VB6 skills, all my reading and experience with programmers at vendors (who release ATL controls for a living) state that the details of doing ATL are difficult as soon as you go beyond a trivial wizard-produced project.

Frankly, I didn't see the difficulty, just lots to remember, not necessarily hard to do.  With VB, its more like "create project", "add classes", "add properties, procedures, events", compile, package and distribute.

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