GM, Chev, and a few others have serious problems.
http://www.680news.com/news/topstory/article.jsp?content=20060425_173739_4296
http://www.classproceedings.ca/present%20cases%20gm.htm
We had this problem, its plastic and will crack areound 60k miles generally. It is on the buick park avenues, but so far i have not had the issue on my lesabre, I believe the mantifold on the two is different. But I was driving my dad's park avenue when the thing finally died on me, I had to pull over before the car over heated and I had steam coming from my exhaust. But it was only a 350 - 400 fix because I'm not a dumb ass and when I felt the car not running smooth and saw the temp climbing I pulled over at the nearest conveiniant spot so as not to over heat the engine.
My grandfathers cars are on the list, he has the Lumina and the LeSaber hes had nothing but problems with the lumina apparently and the lesaber he hasent had a problem with yet, however he also has a GM 1500 pickup (think its an 02) and has had to replace that gasket because it was leaking costed him around $500 or some shit to have it replaced.
I had that gasket replaced on my '97 Oldsmobile 88 because it was cracked and leaking.. the bill was about $400. If it succeeds in Canada it may be replicated in the US.
GM went cheap on that part, but I betcha the lawsuit will not succeded. They'll just argue it wears out like any other part.
Yup, we got sent a letter for a recall too. Yay.
Quote from: quasi-modo on April 27, 2006, 10:49 AM
GM went cheap on that part, but I betcha the lawsuit will not succeded. They'll just argue it wears out like any other part.
The point they're trying to make is that it wears out prematurely.
Quote from: l)ragon on April 27, 2006, 09:27 PM
Quote from: quasi-modo on April 27, 2006, 10:49 AM
GM went cheap on that part, but I betcha the lawsuit will not succeded. They'll just argue it wears out like any other part.
The point they're trying to make is that it wears out prematurely.
Yes I know that, but GM will argue that it doesn't. After all, it usually fails between 60 - 70 thousand miles from my experience. About this time your power steering pump might also be worn out, as well as the tensioning pulley on your serpentine belt. If either of these seize up you will be left on the side of the road waiting for a tow truck. I am not supporting GM, I believe they went cheap. The intage mantifold should not be made from plastic, if anything it should be aluminum. But I don't think GM will feel the whole brunt of this.
Quote from: quasi-modo on April 29, 2006, 01:43 PM
Quote from: l)ragon on April 27, 2006, 09:27 PM
Quote from: quasi-modo on April 27, 2006, 10:49 AM
GM went cheap on that part, but I betcha the lawsuit will not succeded. They'll just argue it wears out like any other part.
The point they're trying to make is that it wears out prematurely.
Yes I know that, but GM will argue that it doesn't. After all, it usually fails between 60 - 70 thousand miles from my experience. About this time your power steering pump might also be worn out, as well as the tensioning pulley on your serpentine belt. If either of these seize up you will be left on the side of the road waiting for a tow truck. I am not supporting GM, I believe they went cheap. The intage mantifold should not be made from plastic, if anything it should be aluminum. But I don't think GM will feel the whole brunt of this.
You didn't read those links..
It's the gasket not the manifold itself that is wearing out.
A perfect example of why GM sucks.