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Title: New forum needed
Post by: UserLoser on February 03, 2006, 08:24 PM
Someone make CrAz3d his own forum or something, this is rediculous I think we can read the news our self

(http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8329/crazed5ng.png) (http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=crazed5ng.png)
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: Trance on February 03, 2006, 08:29 PM
I second that. He should have his own RSS feed or something. It's just ridiculous..
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: Newby on February 03, 2006, 08:44 PM
With his name being posted so many times I'm surprised you managed to mis-spell it. :P
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: Spht on February 03, 2006, 08:50 PM
I was thinking the exact same thing today.  Give this guy his own forum FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.

Here's another idea:  Make your own website called the-news-incase-you-missed-it.com.
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: Falcon[anti-yL] on February 03, 2006, 09:00 PM
Aye.
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: UserLoser on February 03, 2006, 09:04 PM
Quote from: Newby on February 03, 2006, 08:44 PM
With his name being posted so many times I'm surprised you managed to mis-spell it. :P

Ah, oops.  fixed plzkthx.
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: Eric on February 03, 2006, 09:11 PM
Agreed.
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: FrOzeN on February 03, 2006, 09:41 PM
Haha, I was thinking this exact same thing when Falcon[anti-yL] said this,
Quote from: Falcon[anti-yL] on February 03, 2006, 06:16 PM
Are you like the official news poster or something? Seems like you post every news article you read or come across.
:P
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: Warrior on February 03, 2006, 09:57 PM
I really don't think it's that bad just incase I miss something always good to know about it.
It also usually sparks a good discusion on the topic itself.
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: Networks on February 03, 2006, 11:10 PM
Can I be moderator!? <3 CrAz3D :D

http://forum.valhallalegends.com/index.php?action=profile;u=309;sa=statPanel
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: Kp on February 03, 2006, 11:15 PM
Quote from: Warrior on February 03, 2006, 09:57 PM
I really don't think it's that bad just incase I miss something always good to know about it.
It also usually sparks a good discusion on the topic itself.

You'll come around.  The first dozen or so posts from Crazed, I just ignored them.  Even for a while after that, I wrote off complaints about it.  Now, I find myself agreeing with the people who think he posts too many news links.
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: CrAz3D on February 04, 2006, 12:33 AM
Quote from: Newby on February 03, 2006, 08:44 PM
With his name being posted so many times I'm surprised you managed to mis-spell it. :P
;)


I'll try to restrain myself in what/how much I post.
Looking at the 8 posts I have on the "front" page of the General section I see that:
-1 has little relevance to most people but still slightly just an interesting tid bit that one dude is convicted of murder & only got 17 yrs while another inmate has 110yrs for being convicted of multiple assaults.
-The basketball thing just seemed enteraining.
-Dog drug smuggling seemed rather 'feeling invoking', something people might be interested in talk about smuggling methods
-Unschooling doesn't seem logical to me, so I talked about it
--Everything else was posted and became rather interesting discussions



Side note:
QuoteName:     iago
Posts:    8785 (6.978 per day)
QuoteName:     Adron
Posts:    5448 (4.754 per day)
QuoteName:     hismajesty[yL]
Posts:    4817 (4.431 per day)
QuoteName:     CrAz3D
Posts:    4187 (4.073 per day)

Edit:
Oh yeah, I'd like to note that I was extra post-whorish today because I'm home with the flu
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: powered by nissan on February 04, 2006, 01:17 AM
hmm to me crazed seems he has nothing to do with his life. You honestly need to get out and do something instead of spending all your time on vL  (http://smiliesftw.com/!/greddy2.gif) and posting 3212312 threads a week.
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: Explicit on February 04, 2006, 01:27 AM
Quote from: powered by nissan on February 04, 2006, 01:17 AM
hmm to me crazed seems he has nothing to do with his life. You honestly need to get out and do something instead of spending all your time on vL (http://smiliesftw.com/!/greddy2.gif) and posting 3212312 threads a week.

And you need to stop flaming.
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: MrRaza on February 04, 2006, 01:42 AM
We could all post and complain about how he posts to much, or we could just simply say that if he over posts again with topics that aren't really relevant to anything that this forum represents, then delete or move his posts to the trash can. I'm pretty sure we've done this with other people in the past. Anyway, just a suggestion..

Edit: How about you ban that CrAzEd OMG CLONE!! guy. Please.
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: Tazo on February 04, 2006, 08:56 AM
i want my own forum too
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: hismajesty on February 04, 2006, 09:21 AM
Here, the local High School Scholastic Bowl tournaments on TV get better ratings than the news. CrAz3D is just helping keep America (and Canada, and the UK, etc.) informed. :)
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: Arta on February 08, 2006, 08:07 AM
Actually, I think a 'commenting on the news' forum would be a good idea. It could be a subforum of general or politics, and Crazed would obviously be a good choice for moderator.

(seriously)
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: CrAz3D on February 08, 2006, 08:10 AM
Quote from: Arta[vL] on February 08, 2006, 08:07 AM
Actually, I think a 'commenting on the news' forum would be a good idea. It could be a subforum of general or politics, and Crazed would obviously be a good choice for moderator.

(seriously)
;)
*high five*
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: PaiD on February 08, 2006, 08:13 AM
I want to be mod :P
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: Trance on February 09, 2006, 12:51 AM
Quote from: Arta[vL] on February 08, 2006, 08:07 AM
Actually, I think a 'commenting on the news' forum would be a good idea. It could be a subforum of general or politics, and Crazed would obviously be a good choice for moderator.

(seriously)
I was actually going to PM you about creating such a forum since you are the moderator of the politics forum.. I'm behind this 1.2 billion percent..
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: CrAz3D on February 09, 2006, 12:52 AM
Quote from: Trance on February 09, 2006, 12:51 AM
Quote from: Arta[vL] on February 08, 2006, 08:07 AM
Actually, I think a 'commenting on the news' forum would be a good idea. It could be a subforum of general or politics, and Crazed would obviously be a good choice for moderator.

(seriously)
I was actually going to PM you about creating such a forum since you are the moderator of the politics forum.. I'm behind this 1.2 billion percent..
Same, I sent a PM earlier today.
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: Rule on February 09, 2006, 01:36 AM
No, this is a bad idea.  The forums are getting split up into way too many categories.  If we keep going, soon we'll have a different forum for every new topic.

Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: Joe[x86] on February 09, 2006, 05:43 AM
While we're on the subject, I think a lot of people would like it if I was given a 'General Religion Discussion' forum to keep my ranting in! =)

EDIT -
CrAz3D, your avatar is corrupt. I feel like I'm a stoner like GameSnake[x86] when I look at it. =(.
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: Trance on February 09, 2006, 08:06 AM
Quote from: Rule on February 09, 2006, 01:36 AM
No, this is a bad idea.  The forums are getting split up into way too many categories.  If we keep going, soon we'll have a different forum for every new topic.


Maybe then there should be a rule that severely limits news posts to ones that are controversial? I don't think the a new topic should be spawned by a news link, but should be based on the person genuinely wanting to discuss the topic with the community.
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: Arta on February 09, 2006, 08:20 AM
Quote from: Rule on February 09, 2006, 01:36 AM
No, this is a bad idea.  The forums are getting split up into way too many categories.  If we keep going, soon we'll have a different forum for every new topic.

I disagree. A highly categorised forum -- assuming that new categories are only added as they become necessary -- is a good indicator of growth. These forums are gaining more posters, and as such, the range of interests of its posters have broadened.

I think a news forum would be a good idea. Lots of news posts aren't really appropriate for general, but the threads are posted on and do develop into conversations. That seems to me to be a textbook case of the need for a new forum. Since discussions of current events are likely to be political in nature, making a news forum as a subforum of politics seems sensible.
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: CrAz3D on February 09, 2006, 08:56 AM
Quote from: Arta[vL] on February 09, 2006, 08:20 AM
Quote from: Rule on February 09, 2006, 01:36 AM
No, this is a bad idea.  The forums are getting split up into way too many categories.  If we keep going, soon we'll have a different forum for every new topic.

I disagree. A highly categorised forum -- assuming that new categories are only added as they become necessary -- is a good indicator of growth. These forums are gaining more posters, and as such, the range of interests of its posters have broadened.

I think a news forum would be a good idea. Lots of news posts aren't really appropriate for general, but the threads are posted on and do develop into conversations. That seems to me to be a textbook case of the need for a new forum. Since discussions of current events are likely to be political in nature, making a news forum as a subforum of politics seems sensible.
I thought about the splitage too, then I decided the split forums  would keep everything much more organized for everyone.
Like I said in the PM, I'd love to do it if y'all are down.
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: Networks on February 10, 2006, 05:11 PM
I think we should simply DDoS cnn.com and then CrAz3D won't have a site to go to for news or a famaliar one anyway.
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: CrAz3D on February 10, 2006, 06:05 PM
Quote from: Networks on February 10, 2006, 05:11 PM
I think we should simply DDoS cnn.com and then CrAz3D won't have a site to go to for news or a famaliar one anyway.
BBC has good stuff.
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: Networks on February 10, 2006, 06:45 PM
Quote from: CrAz3D on February 10, 2006, 06:05 PM
Quote from: Networks on February 10, 2006, 05:11 PM
I think we should simply DDoS cnn.com and then CrAz3D won't have a site to go to for news or a famaliar one anyway.
BBC has good stuff.

Then I call to boycott your threads, anyone with me?
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: Trance on February 10, 2006, 08:36 PM
News Craz3 Not Curved by Discontent:
- 7 of the top 8 topics have been started or are related to Craz3d in some way
- 6 topics in the last 3 days
- 5 are about news articles
- 4 topics today (so far...)

(http://p.djieko.com/NewsCraz3NotCurvedByDiscontent.png)

I'm not so sure his self-restraint is so great...

Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: Kp on February 10, 2006, 09:10 PM
Quote from: Networks on February 10, 2006, 05:11 PM
I think we should simply DDoS cnn.com and then CrAz3D won't have a site to go to for news or a famaliar one anyway.

It'd be simpler just to have Craz3d's network access revoked.  It's not as though he hasn't given enough justification over the last few weeks.
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: effect on February 11, 2006, 01:34 AM
Kp your such a loser go jump of a bridge. "Restrict his network access" rofl
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: Mephisto on February 11, 2006, 04:56 AM
Quote from: effect on February 11, 2006, 01:34 AM
Kp your such a loser go jump of a bridge. "Restrict his network access" rofl

why are you still here?
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: CrAz3D on February 11, 2006, 08:48 AM
Quote from: Kp on February 10, 2006, 09:10 PM
Quote from: Networks on February 10, 2006, 05:11 PM
I think we should simply DDoS cnn.com and then CrAz3D won't have a site to go to for news or a famaliar one anyway.

It'd be simpler just to have Craz3d's network access revoked.  It's not as though he hasn't given enough justification over the last few weeks.
how so?
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: MrRaza on February 11, 2006, 11:59 AM
You need to get out more. It just makes me mad that I have to scroll through all the CrAz3d posts to get to the relavent stuff.
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: CrAz3D on February 11, 2006, 02:17 PM
Quote from: MrRaza on February 11, 2006, 11:59 AM
You need to get out more. It just makes me mad that I have to scroll through all the CrAz3d posts to get to the relavent stuff.
Mexican drug lorders invading the US isn't relavent?
People suing the school system because they can't pass a math test isn't relavent?
I spose relavence is per your point of view.


I really appreciate the maturity of some of the moderators here.
Quote from: Kp on February 10, 2006, 09:10 PM
It'd be simpler just to have Craz3d's network access revoked. It's not as though he hasn't given enough justification over the last few weeks.
What justification other than me possibly over posting is there to remove me?  Maybe if the forum was more active it wouldn't seem as though I was so post whore-ish.

Quote from: Grok
Stop posting news articles to our forums.  You're annoying lots of people and filling the forums with nonintellectual garbage most people don't care about other than to say "oh thats weird".
While the last part of that might be true, I don't see how it is "nonintellectual garbage" nor have I seen any rules about not posting news.



I believe Arta is the only one that has been civil about this.
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: MrRaza on February 11, 2006, 03:08 PM
Quote from: CrAz3D on February 11, 2006, 02:17 PM
Quote from: MrRaza on February 11, 2006, 11:59 AM
You need to get out more. It just makes me mad that I have to scroll through all the CrAz3d posts to get to the relavent stuff.
Mexican drug lorders invading the US isn't relavent?
People suing the school system because they can't pass a math test isn't relavent?
I spose relavence is per your point of view.

Yes, all of that is irrelevant to me. I do not live in the united states, or anywhere close to that border (You and lou dobbs would be great pals). People sueing the school system? Good, they're raising tuition in Canada, or in Ontario atleast. The bottom line is I don't come here to read news, I come here to help ppl with technical questions and ask some of my own, that's really about it.
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: CrAz3D on February 11, 2006, 03:10 PM
uhm...then don't read it?
OMG, such a revelation.

People suing the schools system/state of California because they cant pass a math test is good?...fine, w/e.
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: MrRaza on February 11, 2006, 04:23 PM
Quote from: CrAz3D on February 11, 2006, 03:10 PM
uhm...then don't read it?
OMG, such a revelation.

People suing the schools system/state of California because they cant pass a math test is good?...fine, w/e.

I don't read them, it's that the forum is clogged with your posts, I think that's what people are annoyed about.
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: CrAz3D on February 11, 2006, 05:43 PM
Not My Posts:
-Problem w/ Islam: I could just as easily posted that
-Afgahns protest cartoons part 2: I posted the first version of that thread
-NSV to avi/mpeg etc conveter: I've posted stuff about converters too
-Recording local sounds: I haven't seen anything or posted anything about this before to my knowledge
-Free Print Microsoft Journal Subscription:
-100 posts & I'm a dumbass: I haven't posted anything like it
-Best OS for server: I don't recall posting anything about/related to an OS before
-Cell phone stuff: I've posted about phones, but not ringtones or wallpaper as I recall
-Buy Danish: Relation to cartoons, I could've posted that too

So out of 9 posts there are what, 3 totally originally posts...most stuff on most forums is just a rehash of stuff that's already happened.
If I don't post it someone else will (in cases)
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: teamstfu on February 11, 2006, 06:16 PM
You know, if you want to post something, then post it. If you don't want to read it, then don't. THere's nothing that says what you can or can't post about.

And for those of you who obviously don't want to read it but do anyway, why are you getting pissed off about it? You're not paying to be here. If you hate it so bad, YOU go start your own forum, and actually make a contract that must be signed or whatever, so that your members post things that only YOU want to see.

Oh and if you'll notice, this is the only thread where people seem to be talking about it. There are plenty other things you can read rather than this. And they aren't things about the news either! You have no reason to get pissed off.
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: Joe[x86] on February 11, 2006, 07:04 PM
Hey guys, heres a novel idea. Don't rely on vL forums as your source of news!
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: Meh on February 11, 2006, 07:47 PM
Thats not what is being argued about. Its wether Craz3d is allowed to continue posting news or if he gets a forum.
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: Joe[x86] on February 11, 2006, 09:36 PM
True, it's not the topic, but it's the reason for the topic.
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: Zakath on February 15, 2006, 05:26 PM
There's no "argument." He's not getting his own forum, and he's been asked not to post all these pointless factoids anymore. End of story.
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: CrAz3D on February 15, 2006, 05:32 PM
I believe there was some sort of debating about a 'news sub-forum' which, of course, would not be mine as it is whoever hosts the vL forums forum.

W/e though, I'll just continue to watch what I post
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: Grok on February 16, 2006, 03:11 PM
Quote from: CrAz3D on February 15, 2006, 05:32 PM
I believe there was some sort of debating about a 'news sub-forum' which, of course, would not be mine as it is whoever hosts the vL forums forum.

W/e though, I'll just continue to watch what I post

Crazed, you're completely missing the point, or misstating it on purpose.  I hope you're just misunderstanding and I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and explain once again.

1)  Forums exist for people to have interesting discussions.
2)  Forums have topics, people expect to read on-topic subject matter.
3)  News sites post news, you can go there to read about it.
4)  You were simply linking news to the forum, nothing interesting, just links to news.
5)  Your action turned the forum into a news site.  This is what annoyed everyone.
6)  Sometimes you would post news and comment on it, but the news would be so localized, nobody else could care.

I hope this helps, because I get the feeling from your posts that you're indignant about being asked to clean up your posting habits.  If so, then "you'll get over it" ($1 royalties to Yoni), or you'll be uncomfortable while you're here.

Also, people assume you're intellectually invested in a topic (care about it) if you post one or two with a thoughtful commentary on the subject matter.  Linking a news article and saying "Discuss" makes most people skip right over it.
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: CrAz3D on February 16, 2006, 04:38 PM
I haven't misunderstood, I believe I've 'cut back' on posting news QUITE a bit frm my 'peak posting'.

As far as the posting an article & just saying "comment" it is probably because I agree quite a bit with the article and would like to have other opinions/view points on it & see what people think about whatever subject, is that so wrong to do?

Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: Meh on February 16, 2006, 05:38 PM
But the point is you didnt really explain your opinion. It would have been better if you went into detail on your opioion then created a debate between others.
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: CrAz3D on February 16, 2006, 05:40 PM
Quote from: Meh on February 16, 2006, 05:38 PM
But the point is you didnt really explain your opinion. It would have been better if you went into detail on your opioion then created a debate between others.
I understand that.
I just didn't want to restate things said in the artice but I spose I will from now on.

Although, I don't see why such a double standard exists between me and members of vL.
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: Invert on February 16, 2006, 05:53 PM
It's simple.

vL > You.
Title: Re: New forum needed
Post by: Grok on February 17, 2006, 11:21 AM
Quote from: CrAz3D on February 16, 2006, 05:40 PM
Although, I don't see why such a double standard exists between me and members of vL.

Enlightenment follows.  Two standards are for two distinct groups.  One group is vL members.  The other group is everyone else.  Are you keeping up?  Inclusivity and exclusivity always implies double standards.  vL is an inclusive group, not truely exclusive.  We include those people we want in our group, and they get the vL standard.  We do not exclude those we do not want, we simply do not include them, thus they get the everyone else standard.