http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/23/AR2005082301588.html
I'll use it as soon as I can get a trillian plugin for the mofo and not a day sooner.
GOOGLE IS THE DEVIL
On the other hand, it looks kind of neat. If I weren't an anti-google activist, I might've used it.
It's live. http://talk.google.com/
[email protected]Note: I'm using Gaim, not Google Talk, so I can't do voice chat, etc.
Anyone got any invites left?
Quote from: quasi-modo on August 23, 2005, 11:25 PM
I'll use it as soon as I can get a trillian plugin for the mofo and not a day sooner.
I dont think there is/will be a plugin. If you go to the home page for Google Talk you will see this link for Mac and Linux users can connect to Google Talk using other IM clients. If you click it then it walks you though connecting it via Trillian Pro you do need a plugin called Jabber made by Cerulean Studios that is compatible with your version of Trillian and also Google Talk says you must have Pro for it to work(because you need to download plugins only downloadable to members)
Direct Link: http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?answer=24077
Jabber for 3.0/3.1 (http://www.insanedev.net/trillian/jabber311616.exe)
Jabber for 2.x (http://www.insanedev.net/trillian/jabber-v1.01.exe)
If I am not allowed to post those links on these forums to the plugins let me know and I will remove.
Trance: yea I have some, email?
Edit: Google Talk Name = Corpse.2005
Quote from: Trance on August 24, 2005, 07:20 AM
Anyone got any invites left?
I've got 50 invites.
I think this says it all:
QuoteIt's become terribly trendy these days for people that want to seem cool
to obsess about every single thing that Google does -- even if it's as
mundane as setting up a Jabber server.
Mundane is the word. This isn't at all interesting. Where's Google's massive improvements that make their IM service uberleet? Maybe it'll get better in the future but at the moment it just seems like a less useful version of AIM/MSN/ICQ.
They make it sound fancy as you can talk to other users, but its the same on MSN.
Seems cool, but doubt i will use it.
I am going to use it. This is only a beta version, it should get better. No limit on contacts and no ads are a big plus for me. The interface is clean and not a lot of crap. Interaction with gmail is good too.
It reminds me a bit of ICQ in its look.
Quote from: Invert on August 24, 2005, 05:20 PM
no ads
Don't forget, Google is a corporation that makes its entire revenue on ads. Don't expect it to be ad-free forever; however, if there are ads, expect them to be small and not-annoying.
Quote from: iago on August 24, 2005, 05:51 PM
Quote from: Invert on August 24, 2005, 05:20 PM
no ads
Don't forget, Google is a corporation that makes its entire revenue on ads. Don't expect it to be ad-free forever; however, if there are ads, expect them to be small and not-annoying.
I do not think that they would write about not having ads if they plan on having them later on.
http://www.google.com/talk/about.html#ads
Oh yes they would.
It's a trap.
Me and Hdxbmx just tried it, he was really clear considering hes in America and im in Wales.
Hm actually, i might change my mind on not using it... :P
Quote from: quasi-modo on August 24, 2005, 06:07 PM
Oh yes they would.
It's a trap.
If they do that it would be poor marketing for a company like Google that has multiple products.
I would know. I am in Marketing Development.
Quote from: Meh on August 24, 2005, 06:30 PM
Me and Hdxbmx just tried it, he was really clear considering hes in America and im in Wales.
I'm confused now... is this voip, instant messaging, or both?
Both
~-~(HDX)~-~
Okay, I'm in. :)
Updated gAIM, now I'm logged in as drabbit and sragen.
Its Gaim or gaim, not gAIM. Uh, it says it on their website. =)
Quote(15:48:39) [email protected]: joe
(15:48:46) [email protected]: get Visual C++ 2005 Beta 2
(15:48:46) [email protected]/Gaim: no
(15:48:50) [email protected]: yes
(15:49:02) [email protected]: it owns VC++ 6.0
(15:49:10) [email protected]/Gaim: no
(15:49:20) [email protected]: yeah it does
(15:49:29) [email protected]/Gaim: Shut up. .NET sucks
(15:49:39) [email protected]/Gaim: You only like it because you like things that suck your cock =p
(15:49:50) [email protected]: ....you realize that VC++ 2005 isnt .NET right?"
(15:49:57) [email protected]/Gaim: It is
(15:50:00) [email protected]/Gaim: I've used it before
(15:50:03) [email protected]: lmao
(15:50:12) [email protected]: it is in no way related to .net
(15:50:36) [email protected]: well VB is .NET and part of VC 2005
(15:50:45) [email protected]/Gaim: Yep.
(15:50:44) [email protected]: but VC++ itself isnt .NET
(15:50:50) [email protected]/Gaim: VC++ is .NET
(15:50:56) [email protected]: no it isnt
Man, why can't I block that loser?
because google im loves me
Quote from: Joex86] link=topic=12602.msg125434#msg125434 date=1125003275]
Its Gaim or gaim, not gAIM. Uh, it says it on their website. =)
Quote(15:48:39) [email protected]: joe
(15:48:46) [email protected]: get Visual C++ 2005 Beta 2
(15:48:46) [email protected]/Gaim: no
(15:48:50) [email protected]: yes
(15:49:02) [email protected]: it owns VC++ 6.0
(15:49:10) [email protected]/Gaim: no
(15:49:20) [email protected]: yeah it does
(15:49:29) [email protected]/Gaim: Shut up. .NET sucks
(15:49:39) [email protected]/Gaim: You only like it because you like things that suck your cock =p
(15:49:50) [email protected]: ....you realize that VC++ 2005 isnt .NET right?"
(15:49:57) [email protected]/Gaim: It is
(15:50:00) [email protected]/Gaim: I've used it before
(15:50:03) [email protected]: lmao
(15:50:12) [email protected]: it is in no way related to .net
(15:50:36) [email protected]: well VB is .NET and part of VC 2005
(15:50:45) [email protected]/Gaim: Yep.
(15:50:44) [email protected]: but VC++ itself isnt .NET
(15:50:50) [email protected]/Gaim: VC++ is .NET
(15:50:56) [email protected]: no it isnt
Man, why can't I block that loser?
From reading that conversation, I'd block you. VC++ 2005 supports .NET, but that does not mean you can't build windows native applications. Read: http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/visualc/default.aspx
Quote from: Invert on August 24, 2005, 07:11 PM
Quote from: quasi-modo on August 24, 2005, 06:07 PM
Oh yes they would.
It's a trap.
If they do that it would be poor marketing for a company like Google that has multiple products.
I would know. I am in Marketing Development.
I was trying to be funny....
spht.vl cat gmail.com
I think this is google's belated attempt to rule the world that's already been conquered. That clean interface will only hold so long because you know damn well there will be ads, that's one of the major methods through which it earns revenue I believe. It's basically the same way hotmail does their messanger (by email). My two cents: I think it's a cheap and crappy attempt to do what's been done to death, the email service is great, the IM service is shit. I wish google good luck in even earning 1/4 of the users AIM has, truth is people don't like change.
I think they're relasing it to boost popularity for their second public offering, considering the losses Google has suffered in the last month ($30 or so from its peak.)
Oh, also Yahoo is doing VoIP, so of course Google has to do that to keep up with compeition. The 4 billion 2nd offering might be for them to buy Skype or maybe Baidu. Probably the former.
Google just wants to keep up and be better than yahoo at all times, being their major competetition. Google IM will never have the support that AIM has, it's been around too long and is just too good.
A lot of you misunderstand what Google does and why it's so successful. The people at Google do not invent or create things, they just make them better. When the IM goes public I have no doubts in my mind that it will be better than any other IM out there. Just like all the other things that Google made that is now public. The consumers should thank Google for doing what it does, they force competition and if you have taken a basic business class you know that competition is always a good thing for the end user. For example if Google did not set the bar so high for how much space you should get with your free e-mail account Microsoft and Yahoo would have never budged on the limit they had once before for their free e-mail account.
I just got Google Talk, google's IM client. Unfortunately, not many of my friend's use gmail/google talk. Can any of you who have the client post your gmail accounts here?
Quote from: Ender on December 09, 2005, 11:02 AM
I just got Google Talk, google's IM client. Unfortunately, not many of my friend's use gmail/google talk. Can any of you who have the client post your gmail accounts here?
Just use a more mainstream instant messenger. Do you expect many of us to give you our accounts just so you can talk with us?
I looked @ it, but then decided that there are too many IM clients now :(
Quote from: Yegg on December 09, 2005, 11:04 AM
Quote from: Ender on December 09, 2005, 11:02 AM
I just got Google Talk, google's IM client. Unfortunately, not many of my friend's use gmail/google talk. Can any of you who have the client post your gmail accounts here?
Just use a more mainstream instant messenger. Do you expect many of us to give you our accounts just so you can talk with us?
Hm, so I see
you're not a friendly person...
And btw, Gaim or w/e clients you use right now were once not mainstream.
http://forum.valhallalegends.com/index.php?topic=12602.0
My biggest problem with Google Talk is that it's too Big-Brothery. I hate the feeling that Google is constantly spying on me, my searches is enough for me :)
Quote from: Spht on December 09, 2005, 11:25 AM
http://forum.valhallalegends.com/index.php?topic=12602.0
Sorry, my bad.
Quote from: iago on December 09, 2005, 11:30 AM
My biggest problem with Google Talk is that it's too Big-Brothery. I hate the feeling that Google is constantly spying on me, my searches is enough for me :)
Yeah, I found Google's desktop searcher to be a bit intrusive. But I love gmail, so I'm willing to give Google's IM a try.
EDIT:
LOL, now that I posted in the Google IM thread, my thread and that thread are right next to eachother, makes me look so bad... my apologies :)
Quote from: Ender on December 09, 2005, 11:23 AM
Quote from: Yegg on December 09, 2005, 11:04 AM
Quote from: Ender on December 09, 2005, 11:02 AM
I just got Google Talk, google's IM client. Unfortunately, not many of my friend's use gmail/google talk. Can any of you who have the client post your gmail accounts here?
Just use a more mainstream instant messenger. Do you expect many of us to give you our accounts just so you can talk with us?
Hm, so I see you're not a friendly person...
And btw, Gaim or w/e clients you use right now were once not mainstream.
So you jump to conclusions and classify an individual as unfriendly because they inform you that most people are not going to give you their gmail account to talk with them on Google Talk, let alone the fact that most people don't even use it to begin with? I guess I know how to classify you then.
Quote from: Yegg on December 09, 2005, 11:04 AM
Do you expect many of us to give you our accounts just so you can talk with us?
Your tone was hostile, and to some degree, displays a sense of superiority; you can't expect him to not react in the way he did.
Quote from: Invert on August 29, 2005, 05:20 AM
For example if Google did not set the bar so high for how much space you should get with your free e-mail account Microsoft and Yahoo would have never budged on the limit they had once before for their free e-mail account.
I concur; competition drives any/everything in the market regardless of what market it is.