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Programming => Battle.net Bot Development => Topic started by: Archilus on May 09, 2003, 06:09 PM

Title: BRAND NEW
Post by: Archilus on May 09, 2003, 06:09 PM
Act like I just got a computer, I want to learn Visual Basics and Everything I need to knwo to build a bot from THE GROUND UP. NO SHORTCUTS.

Like what program should I serch for on kazaa, and what should I read to get me started.

Remember I know NOTHING... "what's a 'Return' key?"


-==System==-

OS: WinXP Home Edition
256 MB ram
8Gigs free on my HD
a few bots on my system that I wanna tear apart, and learn how to put back together. (What bot should I disect?)


I leave for marine Bootcamp june 1st, so PLZ HURRY.
Title: Re:BRAND NEW
Post by: Camel on May 09, 2003, 06:39 PM
you're not going to be able to make an entire bot in a month. even if you were a total guru, that would be a rediculous deadline. true programming skill comes with experience mesaured in years, not hours.
Title: Re:BRAND NEW
Post by: Arta on May 09, 2003, 10:23 PM
Quote from: Camel on May 09, 2003, 06:39 PM
you're not going to be able to make an entire bot in a month. even if you were a total guru, that would be a rediculous deadline.

Nonsense. For a guru, it's a perfectly worable deadline. Someone with sufficient background knowledge who was supplied with the necessary documentation could easily write a working (if simple) bot in a fraction of that time.
Title: Re:BRAND NEW
Post by: iago on May 09, 2003, 10:26 PM
But he specifically said that he doesn't know anything about anything.
Title: Re:BRAND NEW
Post by: Arta on May 09, 2003, 10:56 PM
Which makes it a moot point, but a point nonetheless :)
Title: Re:BRAND NEW
Post by: Archilus on May 10, 2003, 05:33 AM
So what's the hold up? Gimme proper documentation and point me in the right direction.
Title: Re:BRAND NEW
Post by: Yoni on May 10, 2003, 05:39 AM
If you want to learn VB/programming in general just for Battle.net, I suggest to not even bother.
Title: Re:BRAND NEW
Post by: Archilus on May 10, 2003, 07:39 AM
No, I'm doing this for a career, Not all marines play with guns, I want to be able to do something before i go in so it wont be that hard, and plus, I want to talk on bnet without having to have sc on a laptop.

Yah anyway, I'm gonna be in the marines for 20 year suntil i retire at 38 if all goes well, So a litttle help plz?
Title: Re:BRAND NEW
Post by: Archilus on May 10, 2003, 08:12 AM
I just installed Microsoft Visual Studio 6.0

What next?

And where Can I go to get a clena slate bot and/or an A.L.I.C.E. Brain?
Title: Re:BRAND NEW
Post by: drivehappy on May 10, 2003, 09:34 AM
www.valhallalegends.com/cuphead is where you can find the CleanSlateBot.ocx. Read his directions as well.
Title: Re:BRAND NEW
Post by: Arta on May 10, 2003, 01:10 PM
If you're not going to join the computer industry for 20 years, learning things now is pointless. It will probably all be wrong/obselete by then.

Battle.net documentation is available at here (http://www.valhallalegends.com/arta/bnetdocs/).
C++ help is easily found on Google (http://www.google.com).

But I think you're setting yourself an unworkable goal. Programming is a skill that takes time and patience to learn. Learning VB just to write a bot is, as Yoni mentioned, silly. If you want to be any good at it, you should start from the ground up - don't try to run before you can walk. You should take on some simpler projects and then attempt a bot properly (without CSB) in a few months.

Just my $0.02.
Title: Re:BRAND NEW
Post by: Archilus on May 10, 2003, 04:03 PM
Arta, In the marines People do visual basics... Duh

HEY THANKS FO RTHTA LINK!
Title: Re:BRAND NEW
Post by: Yoni on May 10, 2003, 04:20 PM
Quote from: Archilus on May 10, 2003, 04:03 PM
Arta, In the marines People do visual basics... Duh
No... I don't quite think they do.
Title: Re:BRAND NEW
Post by: Crypticflare on May 10, 2003, 04:29 PM
I found it funny because the fact that my father was in the core, my uncle was in the core, I have two best friends enlisted that leave within the month for it, my two best friends are both into computer sciences and I hate to see it I've never seen a Visual Basic application written yet.. Now I know there very well could be some, but somthing like VB in the army just doesn't sound like it would work out well

[Edit: Wrote Army when I meant Military]
Title: Re:BRAND NEW
Post by: Yoni on May 10, 2003, 06:25 PM
That's not what I meant. I don't have a clue about what the US army uses. For all I know, they might use VB.
Title: Re:BRAND NEW
Post by: Eibro on May 10, 2003, 08:17 PM
QuoteI need to knwo to build a bot from THE GROUND UP. NO SHORTCUTS.
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QuoteAnd where Can I go to get a clena slate bot and/or an A.L.I.C.E. Brain?
Am I missing something here? If you want to build a bot from the ground up, you don't use csb.
Title: Re:BRAND NEW
Post by: K on May 10, 2003, 09:24 PM
But apparently my AliceBot concept is popular!
Title: Re:BRAND NEW
Post by: Banana fanna fo fanna on May 10, 2003, 10:04 PM
I wrote SphtAIBot first remember ;)
Title: Re:BRAND NEW
Post by: Barumonk on May 11, 2003, 02:17 AM
Air Force/Navy have computer programmer as a possible MOS, the Army *may* have it and I know the Marines don't.  If a recruiter told you otherwise he is lying.  Also for reference they use C/C++, Cobal and Fortran.